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I don’t think this ends Trump. The thing you’d need to end Trump is a group of people with both the power and the will to stop him. But I don’t actually see this out there. Even though democrats believe Alligator Alcatraz is a concentration camp feeding people worms, there’s not so much as an investigation on the matter, let alone impeachment proceedings. They say he’s a dictator, and write letters that may as well read “Dear Leader Trump: what you are doing is bad, mean, and we don’t like it. Please stop immediately or we’re sending another letter.” If there’s no action on things that people believe are sending us down the path of imitating mustache man, why would a document that nobody has and a lawsuit make any difference at all?
That’s not how power works. Until those with the power to do something start coordinating to use that power to disempower the other guy, it doesn’t matter. Public opinion doesn’t matter here, nor does the appearance of abuse of authority. Epstein might hurt Trump’s reputation, but it hasn’t changed anything. He’s still the president, and I think a good chunk of the base is more interested in his ability to fix things for them than a letter.
What kinds of people have the power to end Trump? His staff?
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