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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 12, 2022

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All lead to option 3.

Options 1 and 2 just apply huge burdens and store up resentments between the de facto 2 classes, while at the same time removing all selection mechanisms for the underclass, biologically, culturally, in family customs, even personal habits. Ever aspect of these people is left, prey to entropic build-up and degradation. This is de facto extermination, just slowly. Unless there is some way to reverse that entropic build up, which requires not only a society and culture that is foolproof and builds beneficial habits for those who are useless and know it while also requiring germline gene correction/editing deployed enmass. This is the minimum threshold for options 1 and 2 to succeed. Note that this is - perfect gene editing and utopian society that has fixed all problems endemic in the present day and historical underclasses.

Option 3 has the same problems as options 1 and 2, except now the very mechanism of the operation of state is itself now unable to undergo any selection, and will, unless we have divine intervention and achieve a perfect immortal utopia, collapse. Eventually.

The only sane way to respond to anyone suggesting UBI or any other such measures is as if they harbour genocidal impulses towards those who would be in the UBI dependant class. They either do, or they don't care. UBI implemented across the world is obscene and horrifying to such an extent that it makes even the holocaust look like a practice run in human destruction..

I am not convinced thst this isn't UBI by the backdoor, and embeds all the dysgenic and totalitarian criticims I have of UBI via your resource block mechanism.

Yes I agree, the people in charge may very well not be Smart and Good. I must clarify that I don't argue for 3 out of fear of dysgenics, rather that dysgenics will make 3 the de facto outcome , even if it starts with 1 or 2 or even 3.

Destroying the poor can happen via drome tech, but it can also happen but removing selection pressure on their subpopulation leading to a proliferation of unhealthy alleles, bad habits, and self destructive culture. All can be propped up and sustaine by the pumping in of energy, food, resources, healthcare, and management, etc from the glorious and benevolent UBI providing Smart and Good. Meanwhile the poor degrade and are harmed, untill such time that the UBI either cannot sustain them anymore or is removed and then they mostly all die I guess.

As a thought experiment attempt to illustrate this point consider if we could medicate all the negative effects of say, sickle cell anaemia but didn't do anything about malaria. If we isolate the population and prevent breeidng with external populations and then leave them to it, pumping in sickle cell meds, for a long time, many many many generations, and then suddenly go "surprise" and stop the meds what happens to their population?

What happens if none of them know how to farm or hunt or even cook too, as prepared food was given to them for the last several generations? then you also stop providing the food at the same time.

Ditto that for everything else that's benficial.

Add in maybe they've also been encouraged to take lots of highly addictive drugs too, don't worry they won't ever run out and if you want to wuit here are these withdrawal meds? How many are addicts?then suddenly one day, no more drugs no more withdrawl meds?

So they suddently have no meds for their crippling and ultimately lethal inherited genetic diseases, don't have energy, food, and are going through withdrawal. Fixing any of these problems is not in living memory of being in living memory to their entire class, so how many make it out alive the other end?

Then the Smart and Good don't need drones, they can just metaphorically club the survivors to death with 2x4s and theres the "great cleansing" of the non Smart and Good achieved via UBI.