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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 19, 2022

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Can you show me where Sam Harris or these "other adults" said this after the election was done?

I can't believe you haven't heard it, it was the talk of the day. There was one more high-profile Voxesque progressive saying the same thing. I want to say Noah Smith, but it hasn't made quite the same splash, and isn't seared into my memory as much.

We're talking about there being a group of voters who, in October 2020, held the unstated belief that Joe Biden was not worth being president, no matter what Trump was/did

No, we're talking about a group of voters who held the stated belief that Joe Biden was not as bad as Trump, but who might have gone, "bah, a pox on both your houses!" upon hearing the news, and refused to vote, or went third party.

No, we're talking about a group of voters who held the stated belief that Joe Biden was not as bad as Trump, but who might have gone, "bah, a pox on both your houses!" upon hearing the news, and refused to vote, or went third party.

That's fair. You're still asserting the existing of a group of people for whom this would have been the tipping point into not voting Biden and arguing that they were geographically distributed enough to theoretically swing the election. I would like to see evidence of this group existing.

Wasn't there some poll saying something to that effect?

If you're asking for something less biased, more precise, focused on the swing states, etc. before you change your mind - fair enough. But keep in mind "the FBIs intervention in Twitter almost certainly swung the election" was me being bombastic, and my actual point was "anyone can reasonably frame their preferred incident as more important".