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Wellness Wednesday for December 28, 2022

The Wednesday Wellness threads are meant to encourage users to ask for and provide advice and motivation to improve their lives. It isn't intended as a 'containment thread' and any content which could go here could instead be posted in its own thread. You could post:

  • Requests for advice and / or encouragement. On basically any topic and for any scale of problem.

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Having nine interviews booked sounds absolutely insane to me. I will never have this experience in my life.

Unfortunately, I am now realizing that it is necessary.

The only way to get a fair offer is to have at least 2 other competing offers. Assuming a rather optimistic 30% interview success rate, OP would have to schedule ~9 interviews to have sufficient competing offers for the next negotiation phase.

I know close friends who got a 50% offer-bump just cross-negotiating between multiple offers. I hate interviewing, and have left a lot of money on the table because of the it. My job hops have been fairly under market for my desirability, due to my inability to negotiate against another real offer. (I also refuse to do 5 rounds of Leetcode on principle. I'm weirdly stubborn about some things)

Hell, I'd say that even if you don't want to switch jobs, it is useful to interview outside and get a counter offer from your current company. A close peer of mine got passed up for promotion because the manager has 'no budget' (it would have been a $10k pay bump). Right after, he was offered a $100k one-time-bonus to stay when he put in his resignation letter. Hah, 'No budget', sure....

geomCDF(p=.3, x=2..inf) = .49

Ah damn, I am pleasantly surprised.

So if I understand right, assuming a binomial distribution, the probability of at least 2 successes from 9 tries (at p = 0.3) is almost exactly 50%.

I just threw a ballpark figure that I would be in the right order of magnitude.


I would love actual data on the typical number of onsites people have, and of pass rates

Maybe it's because I apply for ML roles more so than SWE roles , but I usually know from the screening if I will be able to ace the interview. There is weird feeling in the air.

Like its almost more deterministic than probabilistic. I would never give this advice to anyone else. But I do tend to follow vibes-based-interview protocols myself.