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Culture War Roundup for the week of January 2, 2023

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Blue Tribe social consensus, and is entirely detached from any actual facts of our physical existence.

BLM was a crisis of the cops hunting black people in the street, not because the cops were actually hunting black people in the street, but because the media and other organs of blue-tribe social consensus generated a collective delusion that it was so.

You're missing something important here. Floyd for example was viral on Black Twitter and communities BEFORE media or Blue Tribe got involved. The ideas about police brutality exist in urban black communities and then that filters to their nominal political allies in the Blue Tribe. Which then will get signal boosted by the media etc. The sentiment does not vanish (whether or not it is accurate) because it is not based on data. It's based on stories and previous experiences and then the emotion is usually triggered by a specific incident (often one with a video that can stir up emotions).

You could have zero deaths of black people to cops for 5/10 years or more and no media stories about it and this belief would still persist. The evidence is that stories of white doctors killing black babies in utero as part of maternal care is something that still persists through the stories told by say my ex-wife's mother who is certain white doctors in the 60's killed her first two babies. She successfully had 5 kids after skipping all maternal visits thereafter until thinking her fears were overblown she went back to a doctor for her 6th and youngest. Then when he was born, they discovered he had a needle broken off in his skull and suffered brain damage and partial blindness. So the belief was reinforced, spread to her community and crucially to her children. Did white doctors try to murder her kids in utero? I don't know, but she believes they did.

My ex-wife, an educated IT worker, decided this was no longer a worry, but when she miscarried our first child after a visit to her (white) Ob/Gyn where did her thoughts go? For our second, she repeated her mother's ideas and refused to visit any doctors for the first 6 months. I am pretty confident the miscarriage was a coincidence, but I really want people to understand just how these cycles of issues and thoughts can re-occur even with "normal" events because they are not driven or created by data, they are created by fears and passed on stories from family and friends. Her sister then refused to go to any doctor for her 2 kids. Vaccination rates in Black communities still lag due to "taking the government needle" STILL being an active concern.

Blue Tribe media does not GENERATE these beliefs. It SPREADS them to Blue communities. This is an important difference for understanding what is going on.

I don't understand your point. There's plenty of batty ideas out there (I happen to hold some myself!), that either side's media would refuse to spread, and if they spread organically, they'd only address them in a negative way.

I'll buy "those ideas were already out there" as an excuse for Blue Tribe media when I see them give the Great Replacement the same treatment they gave BLM.

Ahh, i think you misunderstand. I am not talking about blame, just correcting an erroneous understanding (in my view) of the situation.

If FC is correct once the media stopped the narrative the issue would vanish entirely, because they generate it from whole cloth. If I am correct even if the media didn't mention the issue at all you would still get periodic race based protests/rioting within black communities regardless, when a trrigering event occurs.

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