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Wellness Wednesday for September 17, 2025

The Wednesday Wellness threads are meant to encourage users to ask for and provide advice and motivation to improve their lives. It isn't intended as a 'containment thread' and any content which could go here could instead be posted in its own thread. You could post:

  • Requests for advice and / or encouragement. On basically any topic and for any scale of problem.

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  • Encouragement. Probably best directed at specific users, but if you feel like just encouraging people in general I don't think anyone is going to object. I don't think I really need to say this, but just to be clear; encouragement should have a generally positive tone and not shame people (if people feel that shame might be an effective tool for motivating people, please discuss this so we can form a group consensus on how to use it rather than just trying it).

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Why don't you stop tracking your sleep altogether? And what about wakefulness? Do you like being awake? If not, your brain will try to confront you with that "problem" and solve it. You should welcome wakefulness when you wake up, instead of trying to get away from it again. Sleepiness will return after a while, if more sleep is needed in the early morning hours.

Anyway, I recommend the book This is Natto.

The problem is when I wake up in the middle of the night, I usually am not sufficiently rested. I know I need more sleep.

I track sleep because it is a leading metric on other things: recovery from training above all. I really don't understand the skepticism towards biometrics on this forum.

You're still dodging the question of your relationship to wakefulness.

"Needing" sleep, worrying about sleep, tracking sleep and its markers... this will just problematize it further.

You should worry about increasing your internal understanding of your mind. It's the mind which produces the sleep drive and the brakes on that drive.

Read the book I recommended. It's short.