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Again, see Detroit, Birmingham, etc. Basically no immigrants and yet they are the way they are. Keep foreigners out before they change the neighborhood did not work in those cases. Why expect it will in others? Especially why expect that when the most desirable cities to live in are the ones with the most foreigners?
Okay, so because blacks have turned Detroit, once one of the finest cities in the world, into a dirty, disorganized, and violent shithole, therefore illegals don't also have the effect of making places dirty, disorganized and violent (and foreign)?
Like because "deport illegals" isn't an answer to every problem which results in dirty, disorganized, and violent cities, therefore it's never an answer to any problem?
This isn't a strong argument.
it's odd to imply because the nice parts of Manhattan, Brooklyn, and Queens exist with a relatively small number of illegals and the enormous pile of money that is NYC exists (i.e., the reason it's a "desirable city"), therefore the dirty, disorganized, violent, and low-trust neighborhoods in Brooklyn, Queens, and increasingly the Bronx where the bulk of the illegals actually live can just be waved away
I've corrected you twice around my use of the word "illegals" and "ethnic" as opposed to "foreign." "Foreign-born," i.e., "foreigner," is perhaps the worst category for this discussion because it includes vastly different groups which are not interchangeable. Your repeated attempts to make that category the topic of discussion despite my repeated corrections just muddies the waters and is dishonest.
No, because "deport illegals" being the answer to some problems doesn't mean it's the answer to all problems. "Many of our cities are dirty, disorganized, and violent" doesn't seem like one of those problems, at least not for the dirtiest, most disorganized, and most violent of them.
In a very similar way to how "racism exists sometimes" does not mean "racial justice is the solution to all problems, including things like climate change", but people who care a lot about racial justice have a tendency of thinking that fixing that will fix everything. With results that... well, you saw the results too.
And I'm worried that we're going to see the same pattern we saw there except this time it's going to be "we deported a bunch of people and observed that the problems we care about haven't improved, but that's because there are still illegals, we just need to spend even more money and suspend even more civil liberties in the effort to deport them all and then things will be good".
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