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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 27, 2025

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There are animals that we let trained people butcher for meat and do not think much of it, or otherwise subject to harsh conditions for our utility, and there are animals that we cherish and pamper, or at least respect. Some societies do not have that clear demarcation between cattle and pets, but the society Hasan purports to be a part of does (which is why he doesn't go "even if I did shock her, big deal, she's my property and she's better off than etc etc.").

As mentioned elsewhere here, a person who knows the acceptable way to treat pets (enough to cover the mistreatment up) but doesn't is morally suspect.

There are animals that we let trained people butcher for meat and do not think much of it, or otherwise subject to harsh conditions for our utility, and there are animals that we cherish and pamper, or at least respect.

I find the whole ranking of animal species business pretty suspect morally.

But fine, that is a self-consistent framework that justfies meat eating but not pet abuse (assuming you would be okay with someone abusing a pet from a "meat" species)

(assuming you would be okay with someone abusing a pet from a "meat" species)

It's not about the species for me but about the adoption of the pet. So torturing your pet piglet is not ok. And vice versa, I don't care if people shoot stray dogs or, as is the rumored custom in some countries, farm them for food.