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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 10, 2025

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You specifically said "DNC"—the Democratic National Committee—not Democrats in general. It is my understanding that the DNC expended significant effort on preventing Sanders from winning those primaries. Therefore, Sanders definitely does not represent the DNC.

If you want to move the goalpost past "Is a long standing and high profile member of the Democratic caucus" be my guest. At that point the DNC doesn't even exist anymore. It's like Antifa, it's just an idea.

You're the one who put the goalpost at "DNC" in the first place. If you had said "Democrat messaging" rather than "DNC messaging" in your original comment, it would have been accurate.

The is rarely such thing as "DNC messaging" in the manner you seem to be expecting. The DNC does not issue proclamations from heaven on DNC notarized stationary.

It's constituent members directly, and frequently indirectly, launder their talking points through proxies. If I have to defend the ultra literally, actually never happens "The DNC says", which flies in the face of everyone's understanding of how politics actually works, and what people understand it to mean in colloquial terms to say "The RNC says" or "The DNC says", then for all intents and purposes the "DNC" as you expect it to speak with one unambiguous and authoritative voice doesn't exist.

There is rarely such thing as "DNC messaging" in the manner you seem to be expecting. The DNC does not issue proclamations from heaven on DNC notarized stationary.

The DNC website literally has a webpage full of such proclamations.

Its constituent members directly, and frequently indirectly, launder their talking points through proxies.

In that case, linking to Chuck Schumer as I did, rather than to Whoopi Goldberg and Bernie Sanders, would have been much more convincing.

I said rarely, and sure enough, the vast majority of the messaging the DNC is A/B testing through proxies does not appear on that page. Do you deny that the DNC practices indirect messaging through proxies? That when certain people speak in public, despite not being the living embodiment of the DNC, they are speaking for the DNC?

Do you deny that the DNC practices indirect messaging through proxies? That when certain people speak in public, despite not being the living embodiment of the DNC, they are speaking for the DNC?

I do not. But I deny that it is obvious that Whoopi Goldberg and especially Bernie Sanders are representatives of the DNC.

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