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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 1, 2025

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Personally, I'm sick of white supremacists using motte-and-baileys to criticize immigrants.

"That's racist" is pretty much worn out as an argument anywhere to the right of Kamala Harris.

It's revealing that Indians, Mexicans and Filipinos are the main groups they have issues with.

You forgot Jews. Perhaps because most Jews are in fact white?

Indians are a model minority, speak English, from a pluralistic democracy and uniquely economically productive.

Had much experience with the bottom half of Indian H-1Bs? I'm guessing not.

Mexicans are devout Christians, take all the 'shit' jobs, have a fair claim to the land and work harder than any 'sanctity of work' protestant I've seen. There are valid concerns about criminals and cartel members. But, as we covered before, Americans and Trump are already aligned on their deportation.

Are they? Because I keep seeing horror stories about some poor hardworking illegal immigrant being deported, and then it turns out they committed rape or homicide or at least a shitload of DUIs. And then there's the groypers complaining about not enough being deported and various leftists saying Trump is being hypocritical by not deporting enough farmworkers.

because most Jews are in fact white

Schrödinger's whites are the exception that proves the rule. Concretely observing their place in the white identity would open so many cans of worms, that both sides (left and right) are happy to maintain a level of cognitive dissonance around it.

"That's racist" is pretty much worn out as an argument anywhere to the right of Kamala Harris.

Its 2026 my dude. Those days are long gone. Left-wing hypocrisy is practically the entire reason this forum exists. It was a problem. The movement ran its course. Trump won. We are here now.

bottom half of Indian H-1Bs

I've been a vocal supporter of H1b reform. The bottom percentile of H1bs are bad because the system is bimodal (the top tier MS pathway into big tech pathway, and then there is the diploma mill consulting pathway). The latter is pretty much labor arbitrage. Sadly, the biggest victims of H1b abuse are other Indians with strong profiles who have to leave because the lottery didn't work out. The loophole is glaring. That the loophole hasn't been closed tells me there is more to the story than simple 'Dems wants to import incompetent Indians'.

Overall, I'm with you on this one.

Are they? Because I keep seeing horror stories about some poor hardworking illegal immigrant being deported, and then it turns out they committed rape or homicide or at least a shitload of DUIs.

I believe Americans are mostly aligned on deporting the criminals. I believe they are a small enough minority that they won't increase crime rates. That trump-haters spin an open-and-shut case in order to paint MAGA as the fascists is the state of post-truth politics we live in. Disappointing, but it is what it is.

Schrödinger's whites are the exception that proves the rule.

Reminds me of the prime number joke.

A mathematician, physicist, and engineer are taking a math test. One question asks "Are all odd numbers prime?"
The mathematician thinks, "3 is prime, 5 is prime, 7 is prime, 9 is not prime -- nope, not all odd numbers are prime."
The physicist thinks, "3 is prime, 5 is prime, 7 is prime, 9 ... experimental error, 11 is prime, 13 is prime, yes, they're all prime."
The engineer thinks, "3 is prime, 5 is prime, 7 is prime, 9 is prime, 11 is prime, ..."

No, they're not the exception that prove the rule. They're the exception that blow the "rule" out of the water.

Most of the rest of the world in non-white. It's no surprise that most immigrant groups being objected to are non-white. And, in England, the same sort of people objected to Poles. Are they Schroedinger's White too?

And, in England, the same sort of people objected to Poles. Are they Schroedinger's White too?

"Whiteness" is basically irrelevant to the National Question in the UK. "I'm not racist - I don't like any foreigners" and "The wogs begin at Calais" are cliched-because-accurate descriptions of how the typical working class Reform voter thinks about it. Some people support Polish immigration because they are well-behaved and culturally Christian, some people oppose it because they are foreign.

Historically, the niggers of the UK were the Irish, not blacks.