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PaperclipPerfector  1d ago (text post)   872 thread views

Friday Fun Thread for January 2, 2026

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I am not saying you're a pedophile. I'm saying the story isn't funny, and presenting it as "funny" is why you're getting a lot of flack.

I find it hard to believe that the behavior depicted in this particular case would inflict any permanent psychological harm on the children involved

This really isn't helping the impression that you're being a little oblivious here.

I find it hard to believe that the behavior depicted in this particular case would inflict any permanent psychological harm on the children involved

This really isn't helping the impression that you're being a little oblivious here.

I think you are confusing 2 things:

  1. Thinking this kind of thing causes permanent psychological harm
  2. Thinking that many in society believe (or say they believe, to avoid repercussions) this kind of thing causes permanent psychological harm

I assume TK is aware of (2), but he is contesting (1). It does not seem at all obvious that this action, where there was not only consent, but the children actively engaged in the behaviour themselves, suggesting they enjoyed it ("...then allowed both children...") - would actually cause permanent psychological harm.

It does not seem at all obvious that this action, where there was not only consent, but the children actively engaged in the behaviour themselves, suggesting they enjoyed it ("...then allowed both children...")

I assume that "they wanted to do this, and I allowed them to" was the defendant's account of what transpired. Obviously there were no adults in the vicinity who can corroborate it. You'll note that essentially every adult charged with sexually interfering with children will at some point claim that the child in question seduced or took advantage of him. It was a cliché when Lolita came out, which Nabokov was banking on the reader recognising so as to understand that Humbert is an unreliable narrator.

No, I do not uncritically accept a convicted pederast's version of exactly how his act of child molestation transpired. It rather alarms me that you, apparently, do.

Well, sure - if he actually lied, and in fact had non-consensually made them do it, then yes it would be uncontroversially bad (because rape, irregardless of victim age, is bad)

No, I do not uncritically accept a convicted pederast's version of exactly how his act of child molestation transpired. It rather alarms me that you, apparently, do.

I concede it is very possible he lied and only gave a warped version of events to his wife to soothe his guilt. I was originally just assuming he told the full truth, since he was confessing to a crime, but I realise that sometimes even when people admit wrongdoing, they only admit to parts of it.

But this feels like a dodge - certainly what the defendent described as happening could happen. And it seems that everyone views even that as wrong. Would you be okay with it if the defendant provided objective proof that it was consensual? (e.g. by a video recording)

But this feels like a dodge - certainly what the defendent described as happening could happen.

It feels like a dodge for you to claim that his version of events could be what really happened. My prior is that people accused of wrongdoing will almost always deny the thing they're accused of. If they do concede that they did it, they will do everything in their power to make it sound more understandable and less wrong. This goes double if they're accused of an exceptionally heinous crime.

So: because the perpetrator did not inform his wife of what he'd done, he obviously knew that he'd done something wrong (at the bare minimum, done something he knew his wife wouldn't approve of). Once the older of the two children told the mother what he'd done, then short of accusing his three-year-old of lying, the game is up. The only way he can make what he did seem less heinous is by claiming that the children wanted to do it and he just permitted them to. I do not accept this version of events for a second, any more than I would accept a rapist's claim that the victim was a tease or a wife-beater's claim that his wife provoked him. I would put money on some form of coercion, manipulation or outright physical force being employed in this case.

Would you be okay with it if the defendant provided objective proof that it was consensual? (e.g. by a video recording)

If he provided video evidence of the crime, I would believe his version of events. I would not be "okay" with what he did, because child abuse is evil.

My prior is that people accused of wrongdoing will almost always deny the thing they're accused of.

There is a fun (not fun) variation of this as a public defender: people will freely admit the horrible thing they've done to any cop who will listen, and then once arrested, will swear on their mother's grave to their attorney that they're innocent and being railroaded, and that their attorney is a piece of shit working for the prosecutor when the defense attorney can't do anything about the prosecutor using all those voluntary and damning statements.

I'm saying the story isn't funny.

I'm not saying that the story itself is funny. I'm saying that the similarity of this story to a hentai plot is funny. I don't recall reading any hentai manga with this specific plot*, but I definitely have read both hentai manga and ArchiveOfOurOwn erotic stories (example of the latter) that use the victim's obliviousness to trick her into giving a blowjob. And, again, no physical harm was done here.

*I do not seek out loli stories while filtering recent uploads on Exhentai, so it's very possible that I missed some.

How many of those surprise blowjob stories involve a three-year-old and an 18-month-old?

And, again, no physical harm was done here.

I am not sure what to make of your fixation on "no physical harm." Yes, you can do lots of things to children that won't cause physical harm.

How many of those surprise blowjob stories involve a three-year-old and an 18-month-old?

I definitely have seen a nonzero number of erotic stories featuring toddlers and babies on AO3. But I've never actually read any of those stories since I'm not into that topic, so I can't tell you the details of their plots.

I am not sure what to make of your fixation on "no physical harm".

I only mention it to point out that this particular case is not a fistula gorefest. I do not deny the possibility of psychological harm (though, again, I am skeptical of it), and do not glorify child molestation.

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