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PaperclipPerfector  1mo ago (text post)   3563 thread views

Friday Fun Thread for January 9, 2026

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I feel like there needs to be a name for the steelman that like, obviously isn't true and is a fig leaf for the money grubbing that the company wanted to do anyways. Like, does anyone actually believe that advertising is "connecting people to goods and services that will better their life"? Or that price discrimination isn't immediately used to capture all the excess value of a transaction*?

* So in theory, every transaction has two winners; both people only made the trade if they believe that the trade is worth more for them than what they're giving away (tautologically - would anyone voluntarily make a trade that they thought was all downside?) The issue with price discrimination is that instead of both parties capturing some excess value from the trade, one party captures almost all the excess value, while the other captures epsilon (as in, just enough to make the trade worthwhile, but no more).

What makes it true or not is how healthy the competition and the market is. A company that only did this to extract more money from each sale would find itself having a hard time finding buyers compared to cheaper competitors. Companies that offer a genuinely good deal don't do it from the goodness of their heart, they do it because it's also a valid business strategy to aim at making a larger number of sales with a lower profit margin.

The issue with price discrimination is that instead of both parties capturing some excess value from the trade, one party captures almost all the excess value, while the other captures epsilon (as in, just enough to make the trade worthwhile, but no more).

In the case of "signaling" addons, it's quite possible that both the car manufacturer and the customer are happier with price discrimination. After all, the point of signaling is that you're showing everyone you paid for something expensive because you have money. If it was cheaper, or if it was available on every trim, that exclusive paint color or colored stitching the rich person paid for wouldn't be useful to signal how rich he is.

A company that only did this to extract more money from each sale...

That is literally every company that uses price discrimination. They don't get punished either because of market inefficiencies or because they sell goods that aren't interchangeable with competitors' goods.

Or because they are being rewarded by the customers who get the low prices. Remember what happened when JC Penney abolished sales and tried to market themselves as offering "everyday low prices".

People who complain about price discrimination are doing it from the frame of "if we ended price discrimination, everyone would get the low prices". But in the real world people love price discrimination when it gets framed as "you get a discount, you get a discount, you don't this time but try harder next time". There are a whole load of businesses where the main purpose of the sticker price is to frame the (often discriminatory) real price as a discount. This doesn't work for airline full fares or hotel rack rates any more because people got wise, but it still works for clothes (see JC Penney above) and it appears to be the norm in a wide range of sectors including new cars, college tuition, and consumer SaaS.

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