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PaperclipPerfector  6mo ago (text post)   3253 thread views

Friday Fun Thread for February 6, 2026

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Sometimes I read a post from you gattsuru and I end up having a 20-minute personal reflection on personal interests because you're just so matter-of-fact I can't help it.

But a lot of focus on the abs and hip lines near the abdomen have always struck me as more androphillic an interest

I don't want to say I'm the ambassador of the straights, but yeah. That's not to say that a woman who's thin in a fit way isn't seen as attractive, straight guys really don't focus on the abdomen to the point where "fit" is meaningfully distinguished from "thin and untoned."

That said, this from Toa:

one item that has confused me for a long time in erotic art is the popularity of outfits (most prominently the iconic "bunny suit", but also many one-piece swimsuits and bikini bottoms) where the edge of the fabric rises from the crotch at a very steep angle (i. e., straight to a point lying above the hip bone), rather than a gentler, almost flat angle (to a point lying in the middle of the hip bone, or even below it) that to me seems much more alluring.

Is completely sensible to me. The attraction of the steep angle is it shows significantly more of the crotch region and forms a kind of sharp arrow down to the genitals. Every inch of skin in that space is considered pretty revealing if shown, and the mons pubis itself is subject to considerable erotic interest for straight men. I think the point of being attracted to this angle in bodysuits and swimsuts is that it's essentially the bare minimum angle before you're actually just displaying your genitals; it's right on the line without crossing it.

The counterintuitively-named boyshorts are sometimes designed with the near-flat flat angle and do work perfectly fine, even for women with very pronounced shapes (either hourglass or apple), even if they're still not quite comparable to a men's speedo. They can be pretty hot on women and are imo underutiltized

I don't know, I'm going to disagree with you there. Boyshorts aren't really interesting to me at all. They seem femboyish to me. Actually the twitter, uh, meme? strikes me as more resembling boyish aesthetics than what I associate with straight women, even though the characters are depicted with breasts. Maybe they're tomboyish?

I'd expect that for straight guys this is one of those cultural things where you fixate on what you're exposed to

It's funny that you'd say this in a post where you've linked to images of what I take to be furry femboys in striped thigh-highs.

My first serious girlfriend in high school liked wearing a striped, purple and black blouse a lot. Eventually just the shirt itself became attractive to me, and then striped clothing in general. In eroticwear the main use of stripes is in thigh-highs, and straight men have a thing for women's legwear in general, so I guess naturally the "stripes are hot" thing migrated there... so striped thigh-highs are my thing, as in "my college girlfriend actually bought striped thigh-highs in order to wear them for me" level of being my thing.

So it's always been kind of surreal to me that they became principally associated with femboys and transbians and... programmers??. I've definitely met a few of the Discord creatures that wear these as a mark of identity.

I think before that it had an association with scene girls, and that subculture was definitely around at a formative time for me, so I guess maybe it was a straight thing before it was a gay one.

I don't want to say I'm the ambassador of the straights, but yeah. That's not to say that a woman who's thin in a fit way isn't seen as attractive, straight guys really don't focus on the abdomen to the point where "fit" is meaningfully distinguished from "thin and untoned."

Maybe I'm an outlier, but if a girl goes full trilobite, she has a very different effect on me than someone who just has a hint of semilunar lines or a soft belly. It's the same with well-defined upper back. Not talking about massive lats, but there's a woman that goes to the same gym as I on Saturdays and she usually wears a backless gym suit. When she's doing pullups (like a machine!), damn, the whole area around her shoulder blades ripples and it's just hnng.

And no, muscles on dudes or quads on girls don't do anything to me.

I don't want to say I'm the ambassador of the straights, but yeah. That's not to say that a woman who's thin in a fit way isn't seen as attractive, straight guys really don't focus on the abdomen to the point where "fit" is meaningfully distinguished from "thin and untoned."

Huh. Surprised that it's so broad rather than just not T&A-priority, but would explain a bit.

I don't know, I'm going to disagree with you there. Boyshorts aren't really interesting to me at all. They seem femboyish to me. Actually the twitter, uh, meme? strikes me as more resembling boyish aesthetics than what I associate with straight women, even though the characters are depicted with breasts. Maybe they're tomboyish?

Ah, that could be a good part of it, and one that's not accessible to me.

It's funny that you'd say this in a post where you've linked to images of what I take to be furry femboys in striped thigh-highs... I think before that it had an association with scene girls, and that subculture was definitely around at a formative time for me, so I guess maybe it was a straight thing before it was a gay one.

Tbf, I'm pretty sure outside of Always Online subcultures, you're still going to see more straight (not-trans) variants of the striped thigh-highs bit. Even for furries, it's pretty close to a 1:1 ratio on e621, and that's about as tech-programmer-trans as you'll get outside of a Rust convention. Definitely something the gay and trans side of things stole, but not exactly something taken over.

It just interests me how much of this stuff is just accidents of fate, and how quickly and randomly it can swing around. Hell, I resemble that remark myself : obviously furry fandom as a whole is about fixating on a concept, since there's people glomming on a foxy Robin Hood (checks notes 50 years later?!), but there's a very specific video I can point to regarding topping guys in plaid skirts, or for a hetero-friendly example the whole 'male swimwear challenge' (cw: female furries topless, but with featureless nudity aka no nips) was something with basically zero presence outside of porn, didn't have any presence there until the meme took off and wouldn't make sense before the late 1950s, but just unlocks something for some people.

Contrast it with more mechanical or sensation-focused kinks, or where social interactions are the real drivers, or where the material is available to get fixated on but it doesn't seem to connect to almost anyone, and it's kinda fascinating how varied interests can get.

Huh. Surprised that it's so broad rather than just not T&A-priority, but would explain a bit.

Women naturally have higher bodyfat% than men, even before modern obesity, and so women with abs are rare enough that most guys will never encounter one in their intimate life or even their crushes. You've got to be a real connoisseur.

That's not to say that a woman who's thin in a fit way isn't seen as attractive, straight guys really don't focus on the abdomen to the point where "fit" is meaningfully distinguished from "thin and untoned."

Huh. Surprised that it's so broad rather than just not T&A-priority, but would explain a bit.

Just my 2ยข as a straight guy, but I find moderate abdominal musculature quite attractive on women. It's not a primary feature for me, but I like how a firm tummy bridges the soft jiggly bits above and below. There's a risk of the torso becoming too boxy at a certain point, but I'm not sure how much of that effect is just anti-selection (women with great WHRs are probably less likely to get super into strength training).

So it's always been kind of surreal to me that they became principally associated with femboys and transbians and... programmers??. I've definitely met a few of the Discord creatures that wear these as a mark of identity.

Wait, are you saying that non-femboy / non-trans programmers actually wear thigh high socks instead of just memeing about it?

No, I'm saying that I have met femboy/trans programmers who wear thigh high socks and hang out on Discord. If heterosexual programmers are wearing thigh-highs that'd be news to me too.

So it's always been kind of surreal to me that they became principally associated with femboys and transbians and... programmers??. I've definitely met a few of the Discord creatures that wear these as a mark of identity.

Thigh-highs in general are an ultrafeminine accessory, so it makes sense that someone who wants to signal "I am a pretty girl!" would wear them. It's like transmen being too much into tailored menswear.

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