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Beware of black-pills by people who hate America.
Growing awareness of the extent and mode of operation by Jews in European society has never led to habituation, it has always led to blowback, maybe this time it will be different but the cracks are beginning to show: for the first time ever Americans are more sympathetic to Palestine than Israel (yes that is largely inspired by rote third worldism but every passing day even the third worldists are sounding more antisemitic rather than just pro-Brown.)
The NYT already reported Democrat leaders questioning us being led into this war by Netanyahu, which never even entered the minds of our political representatives during the Iraq war. The Jewish archetype and genius is optimized for maximum effectiveness when it's inscrutable, when it's out in the open it historically does not work very well. Maybe this time it will be different. Or maybe Iran is able to make this war painful for America and its Allies, even if it has no chance of actually winning, and there will be blowback to Israel and diaspora Jews.
Certainly there is no plausible narrative for this war other than being led into it by Israel. You underestimate the pincer movement closing in against Jews and Israel from both the right and the left. A quick victory that beer guzzling Patriots can hang their hat on has the highest chance of fortifying their hegemony, but it's not certain and if this escalates into a prolonged crisis the Jews will be blamed, which did not happen with the Iraq crisis.
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