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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 2, 2026

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Presumably some of that city-sized volume and mass will be dedicated to redundancy.

It's unlikely to operate (for most of its life outside of transit) as a singular behemoth. There will probably be hundreds or thousands of dedicated cargo or mining vehicles/drones. The main vessel might be heavily modular and potentially capable of jettisoning or reconfiguring bits of itself.

You also have multiple ways to make tradeoffs between mass/redundancy/bare-minimum required for bootstrapping vs a maximal tech stack from day 1.

"A factory that works perfectly for 10 years without external human intervention" seems very far from our current technology, despite pretty good incentives to make one.

Well, it looks like a pretty AGI-complete problem to me. I don't see that as a major impediment, because of my own impression that AGI is imminent in the near-term. It doesn't have to work perfectly either, as long as it can patch itself up. Ideally it'll be cheap enough that a few VNRs breaking down won't be the end of the world, and even if it's not cheap, they just have to reproduce faster than they break.

If we relax the constraints and allow humans on board, then we're looking at some kind of self-sufficient colony ship that relies on ISRU to replicate itself, with or without planetary activity and settlement as an intermediate step.