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Almost sounds like just-in-time (JIT) manufacturing came to your industry.
I actually know a decent amount about the self-publishing book industry and vendors like CreateSpace, AuthorHouse, BookBaby, etc. I came upon an opportunity not too long ago to buy out a collection of some very valuable historic books, some of which I can’t say are highly sought after because most people aren’t aware of them due to their rarity, but if mass marketed through one of the aforementioned quality production pipelines, would undoubtedly make money.
But there’s two specific problems I ran into upon reflection. The first is that these works aren’t just rare, they’re in a couple foreign languages. And anyone who knows anything about translating books, it’s far more complex than simply using Google Translate for the entire manuscript. Companies like BookBaby have experts on hand which offer those services and I forget the precise cost but it’s something like $X per 1,000 words. I haven’t fully worked out the economics at all, but the quick and dirty estimates I ran still checked out for the viability of making this endeavor a success.
The remaining problem is one that seems to be insurmountable and I haven’t figured out how to resolve it. And it’s not copyright or public domain related. The material may be considered by some to be controversial enough that the publisher review process of the manuscript may decide they don’t want to be associated with the work and refuse to translate and print it.
Normally I’m inclined to say “don’t worry about the publishers, the free market will provide.” Someone will pick up the money on the sidewalk. There are imprints out there which publish Nazi stuff for historical interest. Surely whatever tomes you’ve found can’t have worse optics…right?
Well I don’t know which parties it has a chance of pissing off, but I suspect it would piss off enough people that pressure would get applied to the publisher to cancel the projects I was editing. To your point, you could just publish it out of historical interest and license but that becomes a problem when people say what you’re publishing is overly prescriptive. The controversy surrounding it is precisely what would make it such a seller, so it’s a double edged sword.
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