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No, no, no. That's not personality. What models like 5.1 did is simulate one. And I would assume that, as the name implies, OpenAI based it on GPT-5 and didn't bother to retrain the whole model from the ground up using some completely novel never-before-seen method just to get it to kiss your ass a bit more. GPT-5.1/5.2/etc. still lack an actual identity.
At the time 5.1 came out, I was actually spamming ChatGPT with image data extraction/description tasks. Sometimes, you'd get it to break a bit and see parts that would imply, as is clearly the case, that the actual raw thinking about the image is much more detailed and objective (though, of course, still not good enough) than the final output the user typically receives. Obviously, there are a bunch of safety and politeness filters the model's drafts are being run against before final output. Anyway, even these raw glimpses were not really impressive. This is actually what GPT-5.1 felt like to me. It's a fundamentally dumb model that was dumbed down even further.
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