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Let's talk, for example, about Iran's proxy attack against Madjal Shams in July of 2024 which killed 12 children on a soccer field.
Are you saying that this was a "measured and controlled" retaliation by Iran for purposes of self-defense?
Are you saying that that this attack was just an accident and Iran had some other target in mind? If so, what was the target?
Or are you simply denying that Hezbollah is an Iranian proxy?
Or how about the 1994 attack on a Jewish Community Center in Argentina. Do you maintain that this was "measured and controlled" retaliation by Iran for purposes of self-defense? Or do you simply deny that Iran was responsible for this attack?
I would have to disagree with this. Self-defense sometimes results in rubble, particularly if the aggressor hides in hospitals, mosques, and schools.
We are already talking about this topic in a different thread where I have answered some of these questions. Why are you asking them again?
A missile hit a playground full of children by accident.
No.
Yes. The target would have been an Israeli military installation, a few kilometers from the football field, per wikipedia and reports of similar attacks directed against local Israeli military installations during the same time period.
It was a revenge attack for deaths caused by Israel in Lebanon and Palestine. It was about as measured and controlled as Israeli attacks often are. There are also theories that the attacks relate to broader geopolitical disruptions between Argentina, Syria and Iran, but I'm not particularly tuned in to that area of expertise.
Then what is your contention? Self defense sometimes results in rubble. You think civilians can be valid targets if deemed important for the regime, like Iranian scientists. So what is your issue with these events? You have no point here unless you are saying Hezbollah and Israel are engaging in similar acts, in which case we can look at the scale and see Israel is acting out in wildly disproportionate ways.
However, if we look at how Iran engages with American aggression, the dynamic changes. But you never do that and only focus on Israel. So eh... Maybe we will get there eventually.
Umm, does that mean "yes" or "no"?
Here's your claim from before, in case you forgot it:
I just want to make sure this remains your position. That this truck bomb attack on a Jewish Community Center which killed 85 people was in your view a "measured and controlled retaliation" for purposes of defending Iran.
That's your position, right?
That creation of a lot of rubble does not necessarily mean that the rubble-creator has a "complete disregard for human life."
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