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Ok, so then what realistic and fair option do you actually support for ending this conflict?
I provided the two viable options I see before us.
To be clear, I do not think it is possible to achieve a "realistic and fair" solution that both parties will agree to. There's so much hostility and bad blood and history that I genuinely do not think this will ever end.
The Palestinians will suffer and occasionally lash out, the Israelis will crush them and keep them contained/mow the grass.
I anticipate, barring some black swan event, that when I die the status quo will be similar to now
The first one I've addressed as unviable.
The second one you don't support.
Unless there is a viable alternative option that you support, how is it at all fair to say
Either provide a workable alternative you'd actually support, or do not complain when the only reasonable course of action is taken.
We're talking passed each other
you barely addressed it you just said "muh Hamas" and moved on. That was a single sentence lmao. Do a Marshall plan + AI police state then. The Chinese seem to be chugging the Uighurs okay with this process.
no part of "effective solution" involves my blessing. Just because I don't support genocide (lol) doesn't mean it wouldn't work
I'm not sure why you slipped in the word "fair". I'm answering based on "effective" i.e. ending the conflict.
"Either provide a workable alternative you'd actually support, or do not complain when the only reasonable course of action is taken."
There are so many different ways this is flawed.
I have provided a workable solution, make Gaza not a shithole disaster, and stop fucking with the West Bank. Or just rip off the bandaid and commit to that.
The current course of action is a disaster. We have nearly ONE HUNDRED YEARS of the "current course of action" completely failing to fix this. Untold amounts of suffering, absolutely no end in sight. How many times have the Israelis been surprise attacked, swore "never again" and then dropped the ball and been surprise attacked?
Finally, "you must propose a reasonable solution, as judged by me, or you cannot complain" is a thought terminating cliche. This actually isn't my job, and asking someone to solve one of the most complex geopolitical/historical conflicts (again, as judged by you lmao) is a silly ask. It takes about 7 seconds of thinking about this issue to arrive at things like "wait how many years has this been going on for , unresolved?" "How many people have died? Including how many under the age of 20?" and realize the status quo is attrocious.
Frankly, I've done quite a lot of explaining, and you've essentially just said "erm, no". So why don't you justify why the current Isreali paradigm is such a great solution, given it's complete failure to fix this so far?
How? You already do not support Israel's current actions in Gaza.
Yes, because they keep not finishing the job, and a large part of the reason for that is external pressure.
It is your job if you want to complain about someone not doing a good enough job. Either provide a better way for them to do their job, or stop complaining about the job they're doing. Otherwise you're simply showing your bias.
It's not a great solution, but it's one of the least terrible ones available to Israel given the constraints Israel has to operate under. I'm not the one criticizing them for their actions, I'm fine with them as they are.
I can say the exact same of you. You're finally giving me something more to work with. It still leaves a lot to be desired, but at least we seem to be moving somewhere on this discussion.
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