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Culture War Roundup for the week of April 27, 2026

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Are you disputing that Israel has nuclear weapons, or that they were illegally acquired?

In my post, I was disputing the claim that Israel has been belligerent against everyone in the region. That's what I quoted.

For what it may be worth, I don't dispute that Israel has nuclear weapons. As to whether they were illegally acquired, I do know that Israel is not a signatory to the non-proliferation treaty, although I wouldn't be shocked if Israel broke some specific country's law along the way.

lso the surprise attacks thing, are you claiming that Israel didn't start the 12 days war with a surprise attack?

I'm not sure what you mean by "12 days' war" Iran has been aggressively and incessantly waging war against Israel for decades. So I'm not sure I would say that Israel "started" that war. But if you want to ignore context and look at in isolation (and I know that Israel haters LOVE to examine Israel's behavior out of context) then yeah, I don't dispute that Israel started a bombing campaign against Iran in June 2025 as a surprise attack.

Anyway, before we go on, let me ask you the same questions I asked SS:

Generally speaking do you dislike Jewish people?

Do you assign blame/responsibility to Jewish people for any of the public policies in the West to which you object? For example, if you object to Social Justice, do you assign any blame/responsibility for Social Justice to the Jews?

Sorry, deleted my comment because I realised you were only responding to the belligerent claim, which is fair, my bad.

Aggressively and incessantly waging war

I think theres a distinction between the relations Israel and Iran had before and after both sessions of surprise aerial bombing. I guess my motte would be that both surprise attacks severely increased direct kinetic conflict, civilian suffering, and heightened tensions in and between both states, in a way that wasn't there on the days before both attacks.

wrt your two questions:

  1. Nope, and to slightly modify the common saying, I have jewish friends.
  2. Not really, I generally fall into "the trust the experts" crowd and Jewish people rarely directly advocate against the (these days dismantled) technocracy. If American military(and financial, etc.) support for Israel is considered public policy then I do blame a subsection of jews for that.

I guess my motte would be that both surprise attacks severely increased direct kinetic conflict, civilian suffering, and heightened tensions in and between both states, in a way that wasn't there on the days before both attacks.

In general, I agree. But I would also note that when countries decide to go to war, it inevitably increases "direct kinetic conflict, civilian suffering, and heightened tensions" War sucks, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's unreasonable or unjust. And in fact, this situation is a good example. Iran has been making war against Israel for decades through proxies. At any time, Iran could have stopped and enjoyed the same sort of uneasy peace Israel has with places like Egypt and Jordan. But instead, Iran decided to pursue a FAFO strategy. It was totally reasonable for Israel to strike directly at the country which has been attacking Israel indirectly.