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You're the one who brought up gamete-producing organs. If you asked someone at any time prior to the invention of the microscope what the biological definition of 'male' and 'female' are, they would point to the configuration of the parts between the legs. I can think of no reason for preferring your definition over the classical one as the One True Criterion Of Biological Sex that would apply in any society in which either both or neither were changeable; thus I can only come to one of two conclusions:
You started with the assumption that biological sex is both unchangeable and single-variable, chose 'gamete-producing organs' as your dividing line because we do not yet know how to fully transition them, and, having chosen that as the definition of biological sex, used it to support your claim that biological sex is unchangeable.
You have some valid reason, which would have applied even prior to the development of what, even thirty years ago, was called a 'sex-change operation', for favouring one definition over another, but that reason is entirely beyond what I can derive from the extent of my knowledge.
I am not assuming that (1.) is the case, but if it is (2.), can you spell out your reasoning for defining sex on the basis of gamete-producing organs?
I wouldn't think that advisable even now. I just don't think letting trans-women use the ladies' room is equivalent to that.
Given how much you appear to admire Eliezer, and how much stock you put in the Sequences, it would be remiss of me not to mention that Eliezer wrote an entire article arguing that the desire to "change one's sex" is a fundamentally incoherent one.
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Wrong. You seem to have this idea that I'm carving up categories in a convoluted and unintuitive fashion with the specific aim of disenfranchising and ostracizing trans people. That is, you think I'm the mirror image of trans people, who start with the end goal of including males in the category of "women" and work backwards to produce a definition that satisfies that goal, even if it's a contrived one that doesn't match common usage. (Given you're so fond of quoting the Sequences, I'll note that Eliezer points out you can never come up with a truly rational answer if you already know what the answer is "supposed" to be at the beginning of your chain of "reasoning".)
Rather, my gamete-based definition of sex is the one used by biologists and zoologists when examining every sexually reproductive species other than humans: no one thinks that a female giraffe is "any giraffe who identifies as a female giraffe" or some such nonsense. (See Dawkins and Wright for more information.) Humans are mammals, and I have yet to see a persuasive argument why our sexual categories should not be defined in the same way as those of all other mammals are. ("Because it makes some people sad" is not a persuasive argument, even if Scott seems to think so.)
The gamete-based definition of sex is the one that biologists and zoologists use. According to that definition, no trans-identified male is female, nor will become so in either of our lifetimes. In the event that we reach the tech level that enables us to do this, we may have to revise our categories such that people born male but now capable of producing large gametes are considered literally female. But we will cross that bridge when we come to it, and given the current state of the art it doesn't strike me as an especially pressing issue. To the best of my knowledge, no one has even attempted to transplant a uterus, ovaries etc. into a male human recipient, never mind done so successfully such that the male recipient actually can menstruate, become pregnant etc.
Is your contention that the entire medical community made the wrong call when they started referring to these procedures as "gender reassignment" or "gender-affirming" surgeries?
"People in the past used to call things by misleading or inaccurate names – therefore we should continue doing so today". By this "logic", we ought to refer to Native Americans as "Indians", people with Down's syndrome as "mongoloids", Inuits as "Eskimos", rubella as "German measles" and so on. I find it very strange how you freely recognise that people in the past were more ignorant than we are now, but only selectively. I mean, seriously: "the first name applied to something always captures the true Platonic essence of that thing and is never inaccurate or misleading in any way" is one hell of a hot take. Has it never occurred to you that people can be mistaken? Even doctors and surgeons? History is littered with examples of trained medical professionals being mistaken about matters of far graver import than simple naming conventions.
If I'm reading you correctly, you seem to believe that every male who undergoes bottom surgery literally becomes female. I will emphasise that, even if we insist on defining sex according to what's in between your legs, emasculated males are not female. The absence of a penis is not the same thing as the presence of a vagina. Per your genital-based definition of sex, it is currently possible to change one's sex, but only to change it from "male" to "neuter". If you want to say that emasculated men are neither male nor female – well, I still think it's a rather convoluted way of looking at it, but I would object to it less than the claim that emasculated males are literally female.
And here's the part where you tell me that trans-identified males haven't just emasculated themselves, but also undergone bottom surgery which bestowed vaginas upon them. Sorry, not having it. A neovagina is a crude imitation of a vagina, not the genuine article. Everyone with a neovagina will need to dilate it for several hours a day to prevent it from closing up as the open wound that it is. A trans-identified male whose neovagina was bleeding for five consecutive days would be strongly advised to seek medical attention: for a female person, this is called "menstruation". When a symptom of grave illness for one organ looks exactly like normal bodily function for another organ, I think it's fair to say the two organs should not be placed in the same category.
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