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Culture War Roundup for the week of May 11, 2026

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Well, no. (Actually, I'd argue traditionalism really doesn't "run" on anything so much as it is a mostly-blind adaptation to it. But this is also coming from someone who sees [the kind of person who becomes a] traditionalist and [the kind of person who becomes a] progressive as the exact same thing, in their hearts.)

Well I think that depends on how you define the word "run." The way I interpret the word is that it means that the thing is a core belief or practice.

The problem here has always been economic. Before the advent of the "energy wherever we want it"- hallmark of the early 20th century- that was literal man power. There's a concept called "primary and secondary goods" that explains this pretty well- men extract primary goods (sexual dimorphism gives men an advantage in this area), women turn those primary goods into secondary goods (including children, it's worth noting). The problem, of course, is that while not having secondary goods is bad, not having primary goods is catastrophic. Sociofinancial power, then, is naturally controlled by men.

This seems reasonable to me, but -- so far -- I don't think it contradicts my point. Even in a society which is controlled by men, it doesn't necessarily follow that men aren't coerced into doing things they wouldn't otherwise do. If nothing else, power is going to be concentrated in the hands of a minority.

And so here's where I tap my sign: traditionalism (Abramic religions most famously) simply doesn't have an answer for when [the place men get their power from] is supplanted by technology-

I disagree with this. For example, in ultra-Orthodox Judaism, men get power by being respected rabbis, which is a combination of lineage and years of religious study. Among the Amish, many modern technologies are simply banned, which means that men are still plowing the fields like their forefathers did.

Additionally, even if your point is true, I don't see how it contradicts my position -- that traditionalism coerces both men and women into doing things they wouldn't otherwise do.

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