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There are First Amendment issues, but they are GREATLY reduced in the Business sphere.
If banning the apps is off the table, my proposal would be to force every app to disclose their 'success rates.' In bold print. Every time you click into the app.
"Here's the % of our male users who get matches. Here's the % who actually get dates. Here's the % who ended up in relationships with people they met on the app."
This should really be a basic consumer protection practice. If you're paying for some special membership or feature that is alleged to increase your chances, you should be entitled to know what your baseline chances are.
I laugh every time I read Hinge saying "Sending a rose is 2x more likely to result in a date!"
TWO TIMES WHAT? 2 x 1% is not a good deal. You are denying me relevant information in order to fool me into parting with my money.
With Casino games, there's at least the requirement that the games be 'fair' and post their objective odds so players can know what they're getting into.
If you're gamifying the dating game, posting odds seems like the least you can do.
I'd honestly love to see how Hinge is even parsing that. Are premium customers 2x more likely to say they've dated recently? I assume they're not reading the chats themselves and even then so much communication gets brought onto other channels.
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