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As Anthropic pointed out in their own release, the logic here by the Trump admin if consistent would basically apply these limitations to most if not all other models.
Is there another motive at play then? Well, it'd ordinarily be hard to say. But well, let's just go see what current leadership is saying about anthropic.
Now this isn't a straight up admittance this is for retaliation reasons, but they aren't doing themselves any favors here either. Why bring that up? It's obviously drawing a connection that you absolutely should not want drawn if there wasn't an ulterior motive you want to subtly hint at. At best it's an incredibly stupid thing for Hegseth to be saying right now.
Some former officials are even more explicit that the treatment seems to be from something else. Again, something you would hope your former officials would not be stupid enough to post, obviously drawing connections that you should not want drawn unless the entire point was to make it blatant without going past complete deniability.
If you are going to retaliate, you want to pretend to do it for some other reason but wink enough that everyone, especially Google and OpenAI know it’s a retaliation. Former officials actually seem perfect for this. Current leadership should keep their traps shut though.
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