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Culture War Roundup for the week of February 20, 2023

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You claimed before:

Everything that the doomers claim AI would do assumes a biological utility function, such as maximizing growth, reproduction, and fitness.

[Instrumental convergence] Very much is an assumption

Now you claim:

I think it is what Wikipedia says it is

But Wikipedia says it is a conclusion derived from different assumptions which Wikipedia lists. None of them have anything to do with a biological utility function. So it's pretty clear you either a) don't think it is what Wikipedia says it is or b) didn't read wikipedia or anything else about it. But for some reason you still feel the need to make dismissive statements.

Feel free to leave me "on read". It is clear you are not here to discuss this in good faith. You might want to check out a subreddit called /r/sneerclub - it may be to your liking.

Feel free to leave me "on read". It is clear you are not here to discuss this in good faith. You might want to check out a subreddit called /r/sneerclub - it may be to your liking.

If you can't engage civilly, do not engage.

If you read Wikipedia you would figure out that "instrumental convergence" is not the same thing as the "biological utility" function I described. Quite rich of you to claim I didn't read up and am hinting at words without knowing the ideas. Your confusion as to them being the same thing or even in the same ballpark is honestly hilarious.

FYI - Instrumental convergence describes the convergence to a biological utility function (different primary goal converges to same sub goal, often biological for "intelligent" agents). I was talking about the utility function, not the convergence itself.

Once again I don't know why are you acting like AI doomerism is the word of God. I can read, comprehend, and understand every single thing in the Wikipedia page and still not agree with it. I gave you my reason [compounding uncertainty built on a house of assumptions] clear as day.

It is clear you are not here to discuss this in good faith. You might want to check out a subreddit called /r/sneerclub - it may be to your liking.

I have 600+ comments on the motte. You are the one who made it personal and is giving more snark than substance. Piss off.

I have 600+ comments on the motte. You are the one who made it personal and is giving more snark than substance. Piss off.

If you can't engage civilly, do not engage.