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Right but was the "Women are the problem" part of your view back then, or was that the catalyst that pushed you towards "the discovery of the truth"? Dating really is a lot of luck, you need to meet the right person at the right time.
Yeah I can agree that the current dating market is fucked, I just don't buy grand overarching narratives that its all a single gender's fault rather than the complex interplay between genders, their desires and their interactions. However given that this is the environment, the real question is more what can you do to protect yourself, improve your odds, and still build the life you want? Being right about the system can explain your situation. It cannot, by itself, improve it. At some point, you have to decide whether proving that the problem is unfair matters more than finding a way through it.
There seems to be a bit of a motte and baily here: Motte: There are systemic issues causing relationship formation and interpersonal social cohesion to plummet. Bailey: Women are the cause of all of this because xyz evidence.
As is your right, I once was like you, I made the same arguments you do, with the same totalizing world view. I think it can be very cathartic, but it's very resentment driven. Resentment poisons the soul. You come across very resentful on this forum towards women, but who am I to know you IRL. I can only pattern match to myself of yesteryear and advise you to take a more nuanced stance that isn't so totalizing, blaming a single gender for all the social dysfunction. I'm sure you'll tell me its not resentment, its observing reality and truth! Truth hurts!! Yeah... I've been there...
Once again, you won't find me saying its either gender's fault. I have never uttered the words "I blame women for [X]." Go ahead, look through my comments. If I meant that, I'd say that.
I've very specifically said:
There is no fixing this by changing men's behavior. You have to address the problem where it resides.
Here's a serious question. If the sort of guy who 'dislikes' women is repellant to them...
Why is it that young men who go on dates have a lower opinion of equality then those who don't. Almost like it is exposure to women that leads to the reaction. Or is it that having a low opinion of equality gets you dates? This seems to undermine your thesis.
No resentment in my heart. It actually saddens me that female happiness is on the decline so drastically. We need to fix things for their sake, too.
What's annoying is pointing out that all that data, anecdotes, and personal experience is all pointing in the exact same direction.
And then having that dismissed with the equivalent of "sounds like you hate women bro." Nope. Given how much and how many forms of female toxicity I've been exposed to over the approximate last two decades, I'd say I'm actually very, very appreciative of the goodness in women, when I encounter it.
It's the women.
In general I think this is one of those maybe technically correct opinion in the strictest sense but is basically incorrect. You never say the exact words "I blame women" instead you repeatedly assign a disproportionate amount of causal and moral responsibility to women for the problems you've identified. It's a pain in the ass to dig through all your comments ever, so I sicked ChatGPT 5.6-sol on your user history, it only sampled some of them, I guess AI is as lazy as humans are, but it looks like it took the most recent 3 pages of your profile history and then about 5 randomly sampled and the 4 ending pages. Something like 28% of your comments are Dating/Women related and 84% of those expressed negative sentiment about women according to the Bay-Area RLHF regime. I suppose I could get a better read by running the code myself but that feels more invasive than what I just did and there seemed to be some DNS problem that I am too lazy to debug.
Making this about men, makes it still just as right as it was about women. It's almost like this is a complex multi-faceted systemic problem where both sides are stuck in delusional feedback loops feeding their own rage-filled echo chambers.
I'm not sure how, this is no different than "Being a misogynist is repellant to women vs have you look at female attraction towards dark triad traits". Studies are complex and a twitter post with no paper attached is the worst kind of evidence because you can't even fact check. It's literally just selling outrage for clicks. I get that you like living in an echo chamber because outrage feels good but this is rage porn. News flash interacting with other people in competitive stressful environments makes you like other people less.
Yes I'm sure like most conservatives you believe we need to save people from themselves. If only they would not be gay then their souls will be saved, if we just torture them some more they will find salvation in heaven. What is weeks of earthly pain for an eternity in heaven!!! Do I need to pull out the C.S. Lewis quote?
How many women have you talked to about their anecdotes, and personal experiences? You clearly act like you think women are children, is that why you don't think their opinion is relevant to the conversation?
That said I've also never said this, and I don't think it. I think you have a very complex relationship with women. They clearly are some sort of collective villain in your mind.
Tho the longer I have this conversation the more I feel like some poster arguing with SS about DaJoos. As in you've already made up your mind, there is nothing that would change it. You already have this grand unified theory of everything. Everything returns to DA FOIDs, I talk about social community formation, back to DA FOIDS HAVE NO HONOR (This is a flair for the ages).
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