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It's funny seeing this post bemoaning how litrpg/progression fantasy/xianxia/etc. have failed to get any physical traction aside from Dungeon Crawler Carl, and then the exact same day see this post from The Wandering Inn:
https://old.reddit.com/r/WanderingInn/comments/1vl5yys/blog_20_beware_of_chicken_and_billboards/
The physical release of the first few Wandering Inn volumes approaches rapidly, with enough juice behind it to even get billboard ads in major cities. And pirateaba uses the announcement to provide some advertising to Beware of Chicken, which is also getting a physical release (pictured alongside He Who Fights With Monsters, so I can only assume that too is now in major bookstores).
It seems like you've written this whole thing about a month too early for the male dominated, RoyalRoad explosion to hit bookstores now that DCC has laid a path for success.
Publishers just to have hope no one reads the godawful later volumes of BoC
It's an exciting step, and also exactly in line with my recommendations. BoC is slop, and I'm glad it's available for kids to read. Now lets see if the rest of the publishing world follows suit.
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