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Small-Scale Question Sunday for March 5, 2023

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I think you could do good gradeable art tests using human proportions and perspective work, both of which can be made to have "right answers". Possible using graph paper if the student needs to turn in a drawing. Then have quick ways of counting tiles uses for proportions etc. And just as an artist I would feel way more comfortable grading that than various stylistic choices.

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I think that might be too advanced for these kids -- I teacher perspective in 4th grade, and accurate portraits in 5th grade, and have a fairly high non-completion rate in both cases, so wouldn't be willing to go much younger.

The test in question is for second graders, so many can't write coherently either, which is why I mentioned not wanting a reading test.

My actual priorities for lower elementary are something like:

  • Write their name legibly, on the front, right-side up

  • Some ability to use the materials (will paint the paper, not something else; won't destroy the tip of the brush, mostly won't go over the same spot until there's a hole, spread out the watercolors with water, rather than using it all up dry and complaining about not having any left, that kind of thing)

  • Roughly follow the instructions. If we are painting a large monochromatic blue cat, they will not paint little stick figures of their family with a white background, and complain about not having the colors they want)

  • Keep with it until it's done, even if it's not what they want. Don't crumple it up and throw it in the trash, then sneak up to get another paper or throw a tantrum and cry or something. Don't cross out the drawing they didn't like in permanent marker as though it were a word in a written draft; erase it or else work with what's there.

The current test is about labeling various things with elements of art words, and following instructions to, for instance, color one part with primary colors, another with cool colors, another warm, another cool, and so on. The vocabulary covered is basically alright (though unrelated to the standards). It turns out many second graders aren't able to label, and a large part of the test was spent on teaching them to label, and about half still couldn't/didn't want to/were sad that their art time, which they only get twice a month or so, was spent on trying to label things. It is also confusing, because it involves doing a set of 12 different tasks (label, color, draw, "add texture") all on the same pre-outlined paper. Many are distracted by trying to make some part or other pretty. One ended up with five Sonic the Hedgehog people on it. I think this is developmental.

Every year we, the art teachers, talk for several hours about whether we have to do this (yes, we do), and, if we have to do this, what might be the easiest way to do it that could be useful, or at least harmless. Every year we don't know, and go back to this test. Given that it's not testing anything we or the kids much care about, we would prefer that it be something self-grading, which doesn't require writing or typing, or perhaps even reading skills. Like it would say, out loud, to the kid "color the butterfly with the three primary colors" and the kid would drag red, yellow, and blue onto the butterfly, and then it would score that.

What I think we might go to is a dozen little boxes, with a task written over each box, which might at least mitigate to confusion of having to do all the tasks on top of the same picture.

Ah yeah that almost seems like a developmental psychology problem of some kind at that age. I can understand wanting to have a standard just to give kids direction or expectations but that's out of my realm of expertise at that point. Good luck!

Man, I would have been furious if people wasted my art time on that stuff--I'm suspicious of whoever came up with whatever theory that lesson came from.

4 year old me was going to colour his robot however the fuck he wanted, and if you wanted labels you'd better not take issue with how he spelled "disintegrator"