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I’ve spent way too much time drafting and discarding responses, mostly on account of excessive snark. Ultimately, I’m left asking:
What is it you want from us?
If you were hoping for society-wide solutions, the TFR and gender roles threads had plenty of attempts. If instead you wanted personal advice, try the pickup threads. Getting upset at the lack of birds-eye discussion of a “central point” strikes me as…unproductive. The people who just want to talk about dating markets are assuming your conclusion, not ignoring it.
I suppose I was pretty explicit in what I wanted, discussion on the matter that doesn't fall into those pitfalls. Those are red herrings and I also pointed out that they have the failure mode of massaging your ego or whilst also throwing off your inner status compass enough that you might not be under the control of your higher faculty.
Despite the fact that I do bring a horse to this race, I don't want anything at all because I have checked out of those discussions given I have taken the maximally doomerist position, I implored everyone to leave their status anxiety and ego at the door when this discussion comes up to not shit it up for those who want to have it and outlined how the shitting up happens.
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