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Only 4-5% of Britons think abortion should be extended beyond the current 24 weeks limit according to Pew surveys.
YouGov found that 19% of Americans felt abortion should be illegal at all ages, 9% felt that it should be legal beyond 27 weeks, and the remaining 73% of Americans felt that abortion became morally impermissible at some time between 0 weeks and 27 weeks. So that's 7 out of 8 pro-abortionists opposed.
Responses fluctate depending on exactly how you word the question, but Gallup put 13% of people thought third-trimester abortion should be legal (remember that's out of the 80% who are okay with abortion in general). That rose to 20% in 2022, almost certainly because of Roe vs. Wade making the issue salient and tribal, again out of 80% who are broadly comfortable with some level of abortion. A supermajority of pro-abortion voters continue to oppose it.
All of this is before you start distinguishing 'I don't think this should be illegal, there are times when it might be appropriate' to 'I think that people should kill pre-term babies for fun'.
There's just no way you can get from this to 'most people are fine with children dying'.
Pro-refugee open-borders types overwhelmingly think that these are libels that almost never happen, and to the extent that they do happen, will stop happening with some education. Again, you simply cannot get from "I think we need to take in people who are desperately poor, suffering, and often persecuted by their government; it would be terrible if one of them did something nasty to a child but we can't let millions of people suffer just in case one of them does something bad," to "I'm basically okay with children being raped and enslaved, who needs Child Services?".
Yet 100% of all elected democrat lawmakers support legalizing abortion at any time. It's not possible to name a single dissenter because there isn't one.
Maybe democrats are too embarrased to say it directly when asked in a survey, but they're all too happy to vote for murdering children.
Nine democrats vote against late-term abortions
It is rare, to be fair.
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Well I don't want to call you a liar but since you're here typing on a keyboard instead of rescuing orphans in some war-torn country somewhere, I believe that on some level you are fine with children dying.
That does not mean that you personally do the killing yourself, or even tolerate witnessing it.
Regarding your equivocation on what exactly pro-abortion people support, if you support abortion in the US, you effectively support Planned Parenthood and this is an organization that effectively pays people who deliberately kill babies that would live outside of the womb.
There is evidence of this. Being milquetoast about it does not change the reality of voting for people who subsidize Planned Parenthood or donating to it.
This is similar to the gish-gallop of the pro-trans people who won't acknowledge the harm done to teenagers with sterilizing hormones or unnecessary surgeries.
We all are doing that in some way. The best we can do is to work toward suppressing these things. Our governments are just as effective at stopping child abuse as they are at stopping school shootings or stopping teenagers from smoking the Devil's lettuce.
Maybe if you had Bukele, Duterte or Lee Kuan Yew in charge.
Those weasel words are doing an awful lot of work. In reality, as you know perfectly well, I am not keen on children dying and it is perfectly possible to support abortion in the US without supporting late-term abortions. A supermajority of your fellow citizens do.
I gave you facts about what pro-abortion people support. You don't like those facts, and they don't support your case, but that is not my problem.
I think that the person accusing people of supporting sexual slavery and mutilation of children if they allow immigration from the Middle East, and supporting child-murder if they don't support an absolute ban on abortion, should show a little self-awareness before accusing other people of bad argumentative practices.
If you want to argue that we should close down ineffective government departments, be my guest. I'm pretty sure we have most of the same political opinions, but frankly your arguments for them leave much to be desired.
Extreme abortion is part of the package, and this whole thing is a slippery slope anyway.
These pro-choice people breed Lindsay Clancy supporters and Lindsay Clancy supporters breed Lindsay Clancy copycats etc. This is like sending your money to the IDF but putting a note that it should only go toward shields and defensive barricades or something. You're still supporting the IDF.
Who but the government of the UK which imported Pakistanis is responsible for the crimes in Rochdale and many other cities? Who but the police who turned a blind eye?
Who do you vote for? Regular fetus-killing + a little bit of unborn baby-killing sprinkled on top or absolutely zero unborn baby killing?
I'm not seeing a great deal of moderates speaking up against the 'kill all the babies' crowd.
I mean, I understand why you'd pattern match extreme pro-abortionists to LC supporters, though there isn't a straight line between the two, it's usually the same people batting for the same side at every culture war flashpoint. But then wouldn't you rather every future Lindsay Clancy copycat and supporter was aborted instead?
I am pro late-late-late-late-term abortion indeed. When they start developing the strange hair coloration and the social media posting.
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