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disparagus_impact
7d ago
Maybe we should ship them to Madagascar or something.
disparagus_impact
7d ago
Well I think we are all on a spectrum on all of these different assertions.
Some of these are a little contradictory, depending on whether this is coming from a more traditional or non-traditional perspective.
I imagine that even the hardest of communists see an issue with running out of comrades if nobody in the world has any kids, even these evil conservatives whose kids we will all convert.
I hope we can both agree on some basic facts such as :
- at least some women should have children
- early childbearing (higher fertility, more children over the span of fertile years) is a true statement, whether we want to make it normative or not, if a society wants to increase fertility, that is probably something to consider
- most people can't be both girlbosses and the primary caregiver of a child age 0-3
There are some other assertions that are more debatable, like
giving women the vote was a mistake (they vote for policies that favour them and so society is now weakened, emasculated, and all the rest of the ills)
feminism is to blame (it taught women to hate men, instead of knowing their place being ready to be wives and mothers as soon as they hit twenty at the oldest)
That one is more of a correlation/causation problem, maybe the inevitable fertility cliff was to happen no matter what with modernity, but [single] women do vote for policies that seem to decrease fertility.
there is no such thing as sexual harassment (if your boss wants a blowjob in exchange for a pay rise then get on your knees, it's not like you have any talents or skills that deserve better pay unlike a man*)
I disagree with that one, but there is obviously a huge problem in how feminists vow to handle these nuanced matters. #BelieveAllWomen #NotCarolynBryantTho
No guy has said he'd let his boss fuck him for a promotion
Rare, but it happens. Lee Boo Jin / Im Woo Jae
Why are you so upset about this anyway?
Would it be okay if women were 100% legally allowed to pursue a career, go to college, etc -what we have now or better- but society was relentlessly shaming women who refuse to get married and have 2+ kids?
Or would you also be upset about that?
disparagus_impact
8d ago
If you are autistic I think this is critical information to understand your situation.
You're probably not the standard guy, so the standard woman on dating apps is not into you, and you're not interested when she does show up.
I would recommend doing the trick 'every app is a dating app'.
Instagram obviously, but linkedin, X, pinterest(?) or any other app where people genuinely interact.
Figure out what you're interested in, and if it's 100% male-centric, find the closest connected interest that [some] women would actually be interested in talking about. If you're obsessed with history, find yourself an art history woman.
disparagus_impact
9d ago
Many churches function as social clubs. Plenty of women end up adopting the religion of their husband, but even if that was not a possibility at all, churches are full of families with apostate children.
Even if they do not have the faith-induced mindset that religious women may be looking for, they could still have benefited from growing up in a religious household, with the inclination to have children and take care of a wife.
disparagus_impact
9d ago
Well I'm not saying you should be doing this in the current circumstances, but there are some easy things that could be done to make it easier to be a parent, legally and socially.
Currently we have parents getting arrested for letting their child walk to a nearby shop in a tiny town.
needs to be chased down and grabbed everywhere we go
Yes and of course you'd get judged if you were to put them on a leash, even though that's the safest, most responsible thing to do as a parent of such a child.
disparagus_impact
9d ago
Recurring 'how to fix dating [sites]'
How about a bounty hunting dating site? Kind of like one of these prediction market websites. Is that already a thing?
Person puts up a profile with a $$$ reward for providing h[im] with a date with an eligible mate. Obviously tiered-rewards that are only unlocked under certain conditions. Maximum reward if you actually end up dating, minimum reward if [s]he shows up on the date.
Proposed dates would have to be vetted with a minimum of parameters. For example, while submitting the bounty, if one of the parameters is 'BMI<20', the website should simultaneously indicate how much of the prospective population is available to fulfill the bounty. Then the service would also indicate what an appropriate amount would be for the bounty, given how attractive the target vs recipient is, as a proportion of the population.
One of the issues I have with trying to play matchmaker, is that if I know a single woman, I don't know if she would be a good fit for the guy, and I don't want them to get indignant at me for a rotten deal.
Ideally, with such a service, people who are good at fulfilling bounties will gain recognition, and there will be more trust that they're not just trying to scam or setup the usual ghosting. Kind of like reviews on online sellers.
disparagus_impact
9d ago
Woah that's intense reminds me of that one tv show based on a Houellebecq novel.
I think faced with such overwhelming circumstances, drastic action could be taken.
If you're looking for more 'interesting' characters, hanging out outside of mental asylums could be the trick. You could also get into the drug dealing business, I hear these guys do well with the ladies.
If that's not up your alley, I recommend systematically engaging in undermining current society.
Malware that shuts down some social media or dating app for a glimpse?
Engineered pandemic to remind everybody of their fleeting mortality?
Marketing some kind of new insecurity and selling the cure?
Something with AI, it really gives a lot of women the ick.
Alternatively you could go to therapy and/or join a monastery.
disparagus_impact
9d ago
Then someone pipes up and says: you can just teach your children to not be like that. Arguing ensues.
I think you can. Theoretically it's possible. If we raised cattle the way parents are expected to raise kids, nobody would ever get to eat beef. Easing the regulations on parenting and education would help the supply issue.
If the birth rate issue was serious, we probably shouldn't have any child protective services at all, as it should be pretty trivial to demonstrate that the fear of legal repercussions for accidental child harm prevents the average non-abusive parents from adding another child. Exhibit 1 on travel-related regulations reducing birth rate:
If we had more time, maybe we could wait a couple more years until the oldest two can go without car seats, then have room in a minivan/suv for a 5th-6th.
When the bureaucrats run out of peasants to feed them they'll find out that you can't eat paper.
It's odd how millenials who literally grew up with the libertarian revolution of the web, birthing such bureaucracy-killers as uber, youtube, amazon or onlyfans, still hold dear to letting dead people decide how their life should be lived.
Unironically.
disparagus_impact
9d ago
What might help is if the more extreme of you guys could at least sound like you don't hate women.
What is a woman? There are plenty of likable women out there, but there are also tons of not-so-likable women. Creating new laws and regulation that favor women has led us to cratering birthrates, maybe we should try something else for once.
What do you call the laundry list of "women shouldn't get educated, women shouldn't be allowed vote, women shouldn't have a career (but at the same time women should not live off men), women shouldn't get a choice about who they marry, women shouldn't get a choice about having children, women should not be permitted to divorce (but if the man wants to divorce for a younger, more fertile woman to have more kids then that's fine)" and the other string of "what's wrong with the world? women!"
Where is that laundry list? Is that an unwarranted demand for rigor on my part here, or is such hyperbolic woman-hate really so prevalent on this website and the woman-skeptic web in general?
disparagus_impact
10d ago
The problem with the women question is that the West has succumbed to the idea that it's empowering for people to give up their duty. It's a spiritual problem:
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Then to Adam He said, “Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat from it’; Cursed is the ground because of you; With hard labor you shall eat from it All the days of your life.
Most men are still expected to perform some kind of hard labor to survive, while women can just skip most of the pains of conception and child-rearing. The problem is that society is still setup in a way that transfers labor from men to barren women.
Taxpayers should not pay male cops to protect Planned Parenthood buildings, for example.
That's a no-brainer.
If society is to be hyper-individualistic, we should be able to opt out from supporting a number of government-funded initiatives, like all the DEI programs to get more girlbosses in colleges, or even anything to do with women's healthcare.
Let their dads and husbands pay for the birth control, let the girlbosses pay for their elderly care.
disparagus_impact
10d ago
I tell her there are guys out there who don't spend all their time gaming, but have no idea where to point my daughter to find them (church is out, she's an atheist
And you don't tell your son with money problems to get a job, because he just doesn't believe in working?
Uh nothing I can do as a father I guess. You tell the Man son!
disparagus_impact
17d ago
'Calculated loyalty' does not sound the same as 'loyalty' to me. That's like saying nobody should prefer butter over 'I can't believe it's not butter'.
At least for the meme of women being upset that PUAs are faking confidence and are not actually the kind of men that they represent themselves to be, there is actually a chance that they grow closer to the female ideal through 'fake-it-til-you-make-it'.
Interesting recent comment on the importance of loyalty, trust, fealty, in a medieval context.
Grima Wormtongue? Sounds like a trustworthy fella I should take advice from.
disparagus_impact
18d ago
What would be effective policy to both maintain the current levels of HIV prevention and also reduce costs to taxpayers?
There's all kind of interesting lawfare going on these days. Could it be possible to follow the same kind of playbook that was used against Purdue Pharma?
Or perhaps dram shop laws?
Perhaps we should tax companies like Grindr (Tinder?) for facilitating HIV-transmission. Cities or other governments that publically glorify the homosexual and the drug-enthusiastic lifestyles (like Portland up until recently) should also be paying up on a federal level.
Once HIV infection is identified, we should be able to do some contact tracing, and make the most probable establishments that permitted the contamination (the last 3 bathhouses or bars visited by the infected within 3 days of probable infection) pay for the treatments.
If it appears that the infection occurred in a government-managed building or outdoors area, the government in question should be responsible for the treatments, unless they can prove that they have taken appropriate steps to mitigate possible infections.
In the spirit of the EEOC, HR departments, sexual harassment and discrimination trainings, I'm thinking of placards placed at regular intervals explicitly advising that anal masturbation and drug injections are formally prohibited in the area, the punishments associated with them, and the phone number to a confidential tip line to immediately address any possible incident.
Of course promotions, federal funds and contracts should be conditioned to how well these policies are applied.
We would need some new class of lawsuits similar to the ADA ones where any household or business harboring a rainbow or similar flag and symbols would be considered a supporter of the homosexual lifestyle and would have to contribute to a HIV-treatment fund, preferably through wage garnishment.
disparagus_impact
18d ago
I saw it perhaps a month ago, and it was great.
I don't think I had ever seen a horror movie in theaters as I can't suspend my disbelief otherwise it being scary is unsettling.
In this case I took it more like a dark comedy and I laughed a lot. I don't think I was the only one as the theater was pretty loud.
They've been making short youtube skits for a few years, somewhat like a Key and Peele duo but without the impression that the joke needs to be stretched out for a mandatory length.
Some of my favourites ones :
Father who stepped up
Santa canvasser
Ghost roommate, one of the examples of horror comedies they've been doing
Also I haven't really seen any political statements they've put out but they never seem to signal, of the type that is so common 'oh I'm the bad guy but I would never say the n-word'. The one issue I have is the overuse of swear-words which makes them hard to watch around kids.
In the movie, that one very violent scene, at first I laughed a little bit because of the shock 'oh here we go the funny predictable thing is happening' then I was like 'oh wow that's horrifying' and then it kept going on for slightly longer and I was cracking up again because it became comedic again, like a parody of Wonderwoman 'look I'm acting' kind of characters. Another aspect is that it's specifically more shocking/funny as most violent media usually avoids this kind of scenes (with a not so subtle DV reference), so they went out of their way to be edgy and still made millions.
All the interactions with customer service were great as well, as that's one of their favorite theme (somebody says something unhinged during a mundane interaction and it slides out of control).
It would have been interesting if it had been actually ambiguous whether the magic device actually worked or not. Maybe she's just crazy like that. It's probably been done before.
The actual story didn't matter that much to me. It reminds me of Falling Down in a way, normal character just goes batshit.
disparagus_impact
18d ago
The institutions are the same in both places, the only difference is the people
Are they really tho? Do they have the same tax rate?
Would the Singaporean institutions allow the grooming gangs that developed in the UK in the last few decades? Or a Jimmy Saville celebrity character to blatantly abuse a bunch of kids?
I see Singaporeans can get jail time for hate tweets as well.
Jail for man who posed as 'SharonLiew86' to send racially offensive tweets
Is it really just a people difference? Would singaporean institutions react in exactly the same way if they were faced with the same influx of immigrants that are prone to grooming vulnerable teenage girls? Or they wouldn't because Singaporean cops are more efficient enforcers of the institutions' spirit?
Isn't selecting people that can make the institutions work also part of an institution? The Catholic Church is not just the Bible and the rules for how things are organized, it's also selecting men that will take chastity vows to be priest. Without that rule, the institution would look different.
Now, if the Singaporean institutions are the same as the British ones, are they also selecting for cops that will turn a blind eye to grooming gangs or will cover them up in the name of racial harmony?
disparagus_impact
26d ago
I actually have a book that's the sequel where the bear family shows up at Goldilocks' suburban house while the parents are out. They trash the whole place while she's frantically running around trying to fix all the messes.
Then the parents come home from grocery shopping and there's her long explanation of what happened, starting with 'I know I'm not supposed to let strangers in but technically I knew them I've been to their house...'
Fun variation, maybe something to do with [large, furry] brown home invaders. They're not like us, tell you what.
disparagus_impact
26d ago
I'm actually very familiar with your situation. My wife was raised by a mom with a similar slavic background, she did have the luck to have a very kind grandma, but it went awry upon her passing away in my wife's teens. She then had to work part-time after school, deal with her mom disappearing sometimes for days possibly due to jail, power getting cut in winter, things like that. I like to compare her childhood experience to the black experience, as the verbal and physical abuse are actually quite similar imo.
This is also something I struggle with as an expatriated parent as I do not have any family support either. Perhaps that means that I can't properly handle my kids' emotions due to some personal stress with work, or maybe I just don't have time for a given child's tantrum among some other more pressing concern.
I've only recently grasped the full extent of the emotional volatility in my household and how truly abnormal it is. I've explicitly stated that for the longest time I've lived with a cognitive dissonance in my head and decided to look past the shortcomings exactly because of the material provisions. Emotional provision is also fundamental to a healthy household, believe it or not.
I agree with this. Unfortunately the striver mentality which leads to social success and material provisions is in some way opposed to a holy, good-natured, empathetic approach to relationships. This becomes apparent with a cursory look at the basic physiognomy of the apparent leaders of the world, Musk, Zuckerberg, Alex Karp, Sam Altman... There's something weird about these people. On the other hand, the kind of people who see themselves as empathy experts, who can sometimes be found in colleges and other prestigious institutions, can also be nasty people (Ellen DeGeneres comes to mind).
In fields manned by volunteers and passionate people, grifters and apparatchiks rise to the top. Isn't that the story of the Soviet Union, with the bank robbers taking control over the idealists?
Some of your framing seems to mirror your own parental anxieties with your 6-year-old onto me.
Of course, I'm writing from my own experience. There is a tension as a parent between asserting control, being a teacher, letting a child bloom and develop independence... We want them to eventually make their own choices and suffer the consequences of them proportionally, without getting any catastrophic failure mode.
Again, I believed my parents could be persuaded into becoming more pleasant people if I just behaved a little better here and walked on eggshells a little more there, but they operate on a separate, irrational wavelength. Maybe I'm still grateful to a fault, where getting up and leaving would lead me to feel immense guilt.
I think it's possible too. It would take tremendous work, it would take things that you probably don't have right now, but such miracles are possible. I maintain my mother-in-law in a sort of quarantine, and at the present I have no idea how to reach out to her and help her heal whatever damage she's got going on. You are also called to be a fisher of men, down the line, and that is the kind of work that is needed.
Perhaps having challenged their authority early on would have helped, as it would have helped you create your own, separate life, without any leverage as you say. These kind of broken family dynamics sometimes end up with a child taking care of a belligerent parent suffering from dementia. Another aspect of that is some kind of emotional detachment, dealing with your parents becomes like dealing with a boss you tolerate for a paycheck.
Eventually you get to replace the guilt of betraying your parents' expectations with the guilt of not giving your children the ideal life.
Another aspect of your misfortune is that for every child in your situation that would benefit from 'raising awareness that getting shouted at daily for minor inconveniences is abnormal', the kind of people and organization that would be suitable for such messaging also want to roll in things like 'if you like playing with dinosaurs / dress up your action figures, we'll probably want you to cut your genitals down the line m'kay'. Also a lot of it is basically considered racist (it may be).
disparagus_impact
27d ago
If I ever wanted to understand his line of reasoning behind a certain instruction, he would default to "because I said so", or "find another home if you don't like it here".
I actually say that quite often.
First one because my young son (<6) keeps asking questions beyond questions, and I'm just trying to get through my day.
Sometimes I do understand he's trying to make sense of something but I just don't have time for it.
Supposedly there's a cultural movement in parenting called 'gentle parenting' where every single decision a parent takes has to be negotiated with the child, and it just sounds exhausting.
Searching the site for gentle parenting I found this thread that may interest you:
For the 'find another home' one, which may come across as even harsher, it's for non-negotiable decisions. We simply do not do this as a family, we do not tolerate this behavior, so I'd usually ask it rhetorically 'oh so you want to switch families then?'
Obviously a teenager is a more rationally-minded person, so I don't expect you to be as relentless in asking questions, but I do sense something unpleasant in you.
While as a legal child you are in many ways trapped by your parents' decisions, and perhaps your description of being in a sense geographically-locked since COVID is accurate, as American geography can be relentlessly oppressive, there is still a sense of ungratefulness I can read.
A few years ago, following COVID, we were forced to relocate to an industrial, blue-collar dump (albeit a particularly prestigious pocket of it) from a densely populated, affluent suburban area where I thrived by being encircled by a milieu of ambitious, curious, and sharp peers.
You were privileged to have access to such an interesting environment, you know that? And that privilege comes from your father's hard-work. The issue is that your father did not raise you to be a hard person the way he was raised, and he is blind to his short-comings, so he does not understand why you are being so difficult about things, while he probably thinks that he would have personally thrived in the conditions he provides to you.
You're not mentioning it but did you have any other family? Or did your parents both get uprooted leaving you without grand-parents, uncles, etc that could have relieved the day-to-day pressure of handling children, and provided different perspectives?
As a Christian(?) you should seek to forgive your parents, pray for them and strive to have love for them. You'll find out that most people had less than perfect parents and while not having mean, broken parents seems like the fair thing for a child, they could also be mean, broken and broke parents, or worse.
Another question I have for you:
find another home if you don't like it here
Why didn't you? A few weeks of cutting grass should have allowed you some kind of means to transport yourself to another area if needed, couchsurf or join a polycule or whatever young people are up to these days.
Every tribulation should be seen as a way to harden or sharpen yourself.
Praise the Lord for all the good things he's given you so far.
The greatest challenge of these times for our youth is the relentless mental attack from a sophisticated, always-on panopticon. Guarding yourself against it is the hardest thing. All your perceptions and beliefs are the product of a constant, fine-tuned, precisely-dosed marketing system. Not one person can defeat this alone. Even that Covid mass psychological event, very few fathers could say 'I shielded my family from the psychic damage induced by mass-social paranoia, forced isolation, etc'.
She told me that nobody outside of my immediate family will ever show me unconditional love, that all other relationships are transactional, and that as I get older I will come back running to my parents with a greater understanding for why everything turned out the way it did.
Practically she is right, aside from the odd saint, God is not a person, He's 3 Persons. Any relationship will sour on you if you start behaving in unacceptable ways. Surely if you blaspheme consistently enough your church friends will turn their backs on you.
it has been an immensely effective lifeline, knowing that as a human being I am born with inherent dignity, that there is a long-term meaning to life, that my self-worth isn't contingent on a handful of people's perceptions of me
That is right. The second half of it is humility. There was no plan according to which you were fated to have non-abusive well-off parents. You'll have to deal with that just as any saint had to deal with growing up in poverty, persecution, martyrdom etc.
Any other person you meet has had to deal with some kind of hidden pain in their childhood, some bad relationships. You're a sinner like they are, and hopefully as you grow up as old as your dad, you will be able to look back and say 'I did a better job than the old man'.
disparagus_impact
1mo ago
Why would you need to make the argument that an influx of brown people would not correspond to some kind of downfall in civilization and descent into savagery?
At the time the UK was coming off the high of a 100-years run of civilizing the entire planet, from vast continents to tiny islands, leaving behind cargo cults.
Two world wars in recent memory demonstrate that even properly educated European neighbors could behave in quite savage ways, and that perhaps the well-mannered British people were even more of an exception than expected.
There was no evidence that the brown people would be able to behave, except for the few British people that had travelled and were lucky to stumble into some positive experiences, and avoid bad ones.
disparagus_impact
1mo ago
UK is a tiny island, walk long enough and you just end up running into the same guy or one of his cousins.
disparagus_impact
1mo ago
Would it be socially acceptable at this point for somebody living in the UK to purposefully avoid brown men wearing turbans in the streets?
Apparently a lot of them carry deadly weapons and are afforded a degree of social and legal leniency while using them.
disparagus_impact
1mo ago
I think the argument is that you're bringing in invaders who are going to radically alter your society. Anybody that stands in the way of that is going to get cut down. I suppose that this is something that needs to be explicitly spelled out to people like you explains why the globalists have been so successful in their reshaping of the West.
disparagus_impact
1mo ago
I dislike the I-don't-like-looking-at-blacks garden-variety racists
What exactly is the problem with these people?
Is it the 'black' part? What do you think of racists who call the police to get their dying victim arrested? Ironically, present-day Britain likely has more brown 'I-don't-like-looking-at-them-garden-variety racists' than white ones at this point.
but a group that I already considered enemies regardless.
'already'? When we are at iteration 1000th of the rhyme? We're all way down the list, not at the start. The anti-racist rhyme is the water and you are the fish.
which suggests that Powell is concerned about browns enacting genocidal violence on whites.
Oh the 'rivers of blood' are purely metaphorical then? Same as this part, I suppose?
"In this country in 15 or 20 years' time the black man will have the whip hand over the white man"
What is a whip used for again?
disparagus_impact
1mo ago
He literally just thinks that if there's too many brown people the brown people will "oppress" your basest, most vulgar, I-don't-like-looking-at-blacks garden-variety racist by outlawing that kind of racism, and that this would be a great blow against freedom in England.
That's the racism that prevents cops from taking the brown people's side when they attack you.
'First they came for the I-don't-like-looking-at-blacks garden-variety racists, and I did not speak out, because I was not a I-don't-like-looking-at-blacks garden-variety racist...'
We must be mad, literally mad, as a nation to be permitting the annual inflow of some 50,000 dependents, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the immigrant descended population. It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre.
The funeral pyre is burning for Nowak, 'you' and you's family are next.
I think the problem is with the organization.
It is possible that there is a small town where a group of wicked people meet up at a local business and abuse their children together, all covered up by the local head of police.
It's a different matter when that same structure is reproduced at an inter-continental scale, with private islands, officials with enough access to allow border crossing, organizations whose overt purpose provide plausible deniability ie modeling agencies, fashion companies, NGOs...
Then we can expect child abuse not to be a matter of opportunity but of sourcing.
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