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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 20, 2023

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I mean, I'm not sure what I can say besides that I disagree? That I lived through the internet wars? That the OP attached to the comment I linked mentioned how shoe atheist was brought up "a lot", because it was a pretty massive thing that was seen all the time?

If anything, one could say that you don't see people say such things anymore, mostly because atheists don't get pressed on their beliefs anymore. They mostly don't have to explicitly say much of anything.

OK, so there's your answer to your question then: the people here likely didn't live through whatever internet wars you did and as such, their perception of atheists is different from yours. Specifically, when they read your stuff about "they confuse methodological constraints for a metaphysical theory," they perceive this as a strawman - a weakman at best - not worth engaging with, and as such they don't engage with it by, e.g. pushing back on it.

I mean, people still do that, tho. They just don't have to say it anymore. Do we use kid gloves on Christians because Christians aren't often in the forums saying that they believe in the resurrection? I mean, it's been at least as long since I've actually seen that.

It seems like the motte doesn’t engage with Christianity or atheism very much as a claim. And that’s fine; if there is a community that can relitigate the atheism wars without turning into Gehenna(many people forget that the scriptural description of hell is literally ‘a lot like a flaming garbage heap, but worse’), it would be this one, but I don’t really want to try.

Again, clearly the people here don't perceive people as "still" doing it (or perhaps "ever" rather than "still"). It seems your question can be answered entirely with just a difference in perception.

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