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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 20, 2023

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the upper crust are ruthless careerists, willing to gut moonshots to please the board with rising KPIs and good publicity when they get into management

There is much truth to it. Indian managers (on average), while brilliant, are held back by their culture of deference to the experienced and cultural incentives to not rock the ship. 200 years of being Bureaucrats to the British, and they remain Bureaucrats in even independence.

No one can meet quarterly goals quite like a Bureaucrat. No brings a golden goose down to a halt quite like a Bureaucrat. The "Hindu rate of growth", insulting as it was, pointed fingers squarely at the Bureaucracy for it's relative stability and sorry growth.

even Microsoft

Microsoft is the counter example. the work that Satya has done at Microsoft consistently impressed people through the last decade. Indian careerists make terrible business leaders. But Indian businessmen are an entirely different ballgame. Sadly, both groups don't fix.

Nadella is an Andhra/Telugu Brahmin, while Pichai is a Tamil Brahmin

Razib has written a lot about this. Both groups are some of the most endogamous groups dating back (around 1500 yrs) further than even Ashkenazi jewish endogamy.

High IQ higher-caste (Kshatriya or Brahmin) Indians, at least those who grew up in the Western upper-middle class, are the people that remind me most of Ashkenazi Jews

You can't forget the trader class (Marwadis, Sindhis) if we are talking about comparing them to people whose caricatures are money-lenders with exaggerated features. The Parsis are also incredibly similar. Rich, endogamous, genocided and now flourishing in their new refugee liberal home. The Parsis need to learn from the Orthodox Jews and start having unprotected sex. They're going extinct.

Asians are overrepresented, while East Asians are rare

While the I would love to take south-asian over-representation on this forum as an indicator of high verbal-IQ, I think there is another factor at play here : Colonialism. Most Indians on here are 1st generation immigrants. A lot of the top comedians are either 1st gen immigrants (Kumail, Hasan) or grew up away from 'white America' (Nimesh in NJ).

2nd gen immigrants (Indians and east-asians) are desperate to integrate into normie white culture. They will never end up in a place as transgressive as this. The 1st gen is best suited to hang out here, but the 1st gen east-asians simply do not speak great English. I do believe east-asian conformity doesn't lend itself well to forums like ours, but to me, the other 2 factors play a bigger role in their absence.

There are a few second-gen South Asians here, I know BurdensomeCount is one for example.

Ah, while my parents are also in the UK I wasn't born here, I came with them to this country during my early teenage years and I think my basic mental view of the world had part formed before I stepped foot on Western shores. A significant part of my schooling took place outside the UK. So I'm not really second gen (but equally not really first gen either).

2nd gen immigrants (Indians and east-asians) are desperate to integrate into normie white culture.

If you were to ask me what I see myself as I would without a doubt reply that I am Hindustani and not English.

No matter how I dress or talk, or the way I interact with other westerners in the end phir bhi dil hai Hindustani. And I am and will always be proud of it.

I think my basic mental view of the world had part formed before I stepped foot on Western shores.

Clearly. Your dislike, and secular arguments against, western modernity sound about as genuine as qutb's, or bin laden's complaints of american imperialism.

sound about as genuine as qutb's, or bin laden's complaints of american imperialism.

Interestingly I have very negative opinions of both those people. I dislike violence on aesthetic grounds and it is almost never necessary to deploy it to achieve your goals. There are often much kinder ways to get what you are after. See how the British used violence to conquer my country, but now we are going to conquer them with love (by having more kids and letting mathematics do its job). No violence or threats needed, only love.

Sure you don't like them. Islam spread by force of arms, and as soon as war took more than riding a camel/horse/elephant into battle, they sucked at it. Changing strategies might be a good idea if they were capable of it. Left to their own devices they degenerate into isis or at best pakistan. Anyway that's not the point. No matter how many West-critical studies you quote or disgust you express at this or that western quirk, those things are not your true objection. You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

Pray tell, what is my true objection?

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