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Culture War Roundup for the week of April 10, 2023

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I’ve said before- most people have identical views on trans which amount to ‘sure, we should probably humor them most of the time, but they didn’t actually change their sex and we don’t have to humor them all the time’. That goes for both the anti-trans activists and most people who push trans acceptance.

And honestly, that’s what’s showing up here. ‘Wear a dress if it floats your boat, but that doesn’t make your concept of gender a thing that exists’ is an attitude that explains a lot of this.

Are Mr. Beasts new videos with Chris diatribes about the concept of gender, or is it just the same stuff he always made but with an awkward looking two months of HRT transwoman in them now? The most recent "Beast Reacts" video has Chris and she and some other guy just react to trick shot videos, maybe they talk about gender ideology in another video but I'm not willing to watch much more of their mind numbing content.

I think 2rafa's comment about finding MTF people 'grotesque' is the real explanation. There isn't some disagreement about gender theory here, people just don't want to look at a non-passing transwoman do replacement level reactions to trick shots.

And honestly, that’s what’s showing up here. ‘Wear a dress if it floats your boat, but that doesn’t make your concept of gender a thing that exists’ is an attitude that explains a lot of this.

I honestly think it's worse than that. You can avoid being awkward around someone whose behavior you tolerate/affirm but don't think has a strong ideological grounding. The people in the comments aren't complaining about incoherent pro-trans talking points. They're complaining about having this stuff affect the show at all. And those are just the moderated comments.

This is more of a "okay, I clearly see that 'what floats your boat' is going to impose upon me and I simply don't want to deal with it (presumably this is where the lack of coherence is particularly annoying)". Unlike Caitlyn, who one can love from a distance, people can see that actually knowing someone like this personally just potentially introduces weirdness and destabilizes dynamics.

It's tolerance in an older sense of not trying to prevent things you do not like, but not in the way modern leftists use it.

Given the demographics of gen z, presumably lots of these commenters have some experience with going trans imposing on group dynamics.

Maybe. This stuff has grown fast, and the fastest growing segments aren't teenaged boys - MrBeast's audience- AFAICT.

But my other comment in this thread is wondering just how many of the audience commenting is American in the first place..

I don't think we can take for granted that they are.

EDIT: And, of course, people have less reason to be considerate on an anonymous forum complaining about what is essentially their favorite show being ruined by a new plotline.

Rush Limbaugh was bemoaning the redefinition of “tolerance” as acceptance in the 90’s. As a person with autism, my appreciation of his defense of precise language was one factor in my enjoyment of his program.