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Culture War Roundup for the week of April 24, 2023

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I suspect we are at the point where continuing to be very precise and specific and detailed in what I do and do not think will continue to be fruitless, because you are already at the point of making things up about what I do and do not think, but I will give it one more go:

presenting HBD as pseudo-scientific

Do you deny that it's abused in a pseudo-scientific way? That doesn't mean there is no legitimate science behind it, but the same applies to things like AI and transgenderism and gun control - there is a lot of science and a lot of pseudo-scientific hot takes based on half-understood kernels of fact.

questioning why anyone would wish to proclaim the truth, including their motives, preferred policies, associates and intellectual forefathers

I didn't do this.

I think a lot of HBDers lack humility or self-awareness: they know blacks have lower IQs on average and think they can state with certainty (though they don't actually understand what science there is any better than the average I Fucking Love Science person understands Newtonian physics) that this is a complete explanation for black poverty, black criminality rates, black educational outcomes, etc. It is what it is, it's biological, we should just "recognize reality" and wash our hands of it.

I do not think everyone who wants to "proclaim the truth" is a white nationalist, which is the reductionist claim you seem to be driving at. I do think HBD is a very convenient rhetorical tool that white nationalists are happy to use.

defending HBD censorship (on the sub that one time)

If any one topic was becoming insanely annoying and taking over every thread for weeks on end, I'd probably be provisionally in favor of a moratorium on it again.

Get over it.

claiming that there is ‚no easy way forward‘ and that expecting people to accept the truth is ‚unrealistic‘

Correct, I do not think there is an easy way forward, and I do think it's unrealistic to think most people today will accept that some races are biologically inferior. I think the idea of racial equality in the innate, born sense and blank slateism has the power of religious conviction for most of liberal Western society, and thinking that we should just "proclaim the truth" until they believe it sounds like tilting at windmills to me. Not that I don't respect a good windmill tilt, but even if you are Galileo, recognize that you are Galileo. (And yes, I know the Galileo story itself is more complicated, work with me here.) And also, I am not convinced that the HBDers, especially the "Hard HBDers," actually have rock-solid science on their side, whereas you apparently think this is unambiguously the side of truth and virtue.

That doesn't mean there is no path towards accepting unpleasant truths, but I stand by my position that I'm recognizing a bitter pill, not pretending it doesn't exist.

Do you deny that it's abused in a pseudo-scientific way?

No, of course it's abused, like every true thing. Of course people who believe it will pretend to know and understand more than they really do. Something being abused and ‚I love science“-ed does not make it pseudo-scientific.

I do think HBD is a very convenient rhetorical tool that white nationalists are happy to use.

By your own admission it is true, so convenience is neither here nor there. How convenient for nazis that physics allowed them to build rockets.

If any one topic was becoming insanely annoying and taking over every thread for weeks on end, I'd probably be provisionally in favor of a moratorium on it again.

Get over it.

I don‘t get over censorship of the truth. I honestly don‘t know why you feel I misrepresented you, we seem to be in perfect agreement on what your positions are.

you apparently think this is unambiguously the side of truth and virtue.

You already agreed it is the side of truth. Is there a gap between the side of truth, and the side of virtue ?