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naraburns  nihil supernum  11mo ago (text post)   2959 thread views

Friday Fun Thread for April 28, 2023

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It looks like tildes.net found out about themotte.

They seem to mostly have negative takes, but that's not terribly surprising.

Edit: I don't know that this in particular is terribly important, but it's good to see that there's some small amount of discovery going on across the internet, in the interest of keeping themotte alive and well. I found this by searching for "themotte" on reddit.

What is this site?

I haven't been on it myself, but it looks like it's another text-based reddit-style discussion site? They say they also want relatively higher quality discussion than found on reddit. https://blog.tildes.net/announcing-tildes

I found this yesterday by searching "themotte" on reddit, and there was a post a few days ago on pointing to that post on tildes.

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