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Culture War Roundup for the week of May 1, 2023

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Isn't the evosych bit backwards? Evolution mostly occurred for humans in small-scale societies (some did in larger societies recently, but less, and I don't think there's are any significant differences in noncultural sexual dimorphism between populations with more or less agriculture historically). In a small society, conflict might mean (exaggerated) half the men die, while their wives are just taken by the winning men and continue to reproduce (maybe their kids die, maybe they don't). Part of my guess - Men (also a very questionable justso story) would rather have a more spread out distribution - have a chance at being 'the best' or 'the worst' - rather than conforming and having a higher chance at being mid-distribution, because the best men might be able to reproduce a lot, while both middling and bottom men reproduce close to zero. Female reproduction is capped, so they're more influenced by the natural risk-aversion of it being easier to imitate the current cultural set of good ideas than try to come up with your own, most of which will be bad.

Isn't the evosych bit backwards?

No because the scale or agricultural bias of the society is largely irrelevant to the biological fact that adult males are a disposable resource.

A society or tribe can afford to lose 90 percent of its male population in a manner that it can't afford to lose 90 percent of it's women and children. The former can (and likely will) bounce back to its original population numbers in the space of a generation or two, the latter is likely doomed.

If you believe in a strong theory of group selection, but the Fisher's principle proves that an approximately 50-50 male female ratios will prevail. Something, empirically provable, even in humans. Empirically males aren't disposable biologically. I'm not sure why you think the Lord your God thinks males should be disposable; either, as an ex-Catholic.

I think you need to explain what you think you mean by "empirically" in this instance because I'm not making a "should" statement im making an "is" statements and the existance of selection pressures that favor parity between the sexes over time does not change the fact that adult males are essentially disposable.

Sure, but in Western society, both Western Christianity and even before in pagan Greece and Rome monogamy was strictly enforced and this makes men not so disposable. Especially in a plow based farming economy that relies on male labor and in many cases restricted females from working many jobs. Males are not disposable, they are essential. I discussed this with you before about how infanticide is almost always biased towards killing female infants and male children are almost always favored in most societies including present ones.

Sure, but in Western society, both Western Christianity and even before in pagan Greece and Rome monogamy was strictly enforced and this makes men not so disposable.

No it doesn't, because a widow can remarry. The reason we used men for hard, physical, and often dangerous labor is that we can afford to lose them.

Likewise, the historical reason that male children have been preferred is that until very recently only male children could inherit, and this bias was very much tied to their disposable nature. What does a man do? A man provides.

OP claimed that "revolution and social upheaval are often worse for women than for men", which isn't really true, because 90% of the men are lost while the women aren't, for the reason you describe. Losing 90% of your men is worse for the men, and requires explanation. But the explanation is that men can reproduce more, and thus benefit from either socially outcompeting or killing other men more than women do.

Losing 90% of your men is worse for the men

No it's not, because men are disposable. That's my point.