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Culture War Roundup for the week of May 15, 2023

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Diamond says Europeans were lucky to have useful animals hanging around

Eurasians, not Europeans. His book is about Eurasian geographical advantages. I don’t know that any of the major species were domesticated in Europe proper.

Re boars, wild horses, etc, I have no idea how docile they are. I am guessing Diamond knows more than either of, though of course that doesn't mean he is right. But the issue is not whether he was right; the issue we are discussing is whether the book should be summarily dismissed.

I am no expert on wild boars, especially not the boars that lived in the Near East, but I note that you say that they are vicious "when cornered." It is certainly possible that zebras are vicious on general principles. Moreover, this says that 80 percent of wild boar attacks are by males; is it not possible that the females are not so dangerous? One doesn't need many males when raising livestock for food, after all. And is it not possible that zebras of both sexes are assholes? Or, even if just the males are assholes, if they are being raised as beasts of burden, you probably want males, which I presume are bigger and stronger than females.

Anyhow, my point is I am skeptical that one can discount his argument based merely on what you have heard about wild boars, unless you know a lot more than I do about both zebras and wild boars.

the kind of obviously implausible just-so story t

Why obviously implausible? It wouldn't be a very good just-so story if it were obviously implausible. Isn't logical plausibility the whole point of just-so stories? And, surely, there are reasons that some animals were domesticated and others were not. Why is it "obviously implausible" that disposition, as well as the other factors identified by Diamond (there is a reason the chapter is called "Zebras, Unhappy Marriages & The Anna Karenina Principle"), were important factors?

Do you think any book can be summarily dismissed? If not, would it not be more useful to argue the general case? If so, what's a reasonable standard in your view?

Anything written by Ibram Kendi

Common ground!

Well, I meant to add, "and Dinesh D'Souza," at least within the last 20 years.

And, more seriously, any book in which it is clear that the author has not read any of the existing relevant literature. Eg, this one.

The issue we are discussing is whether the book should be summarily dismissed.

The details of whether a particular species was domesticable or not is something you can have a conversation about, the broader theory absolutely should be dismissed.