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Culture War Roundup for the week of May 22, 2023

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If you look at the maps you linked, you will see that the camps are mostly concentrated in the territory of the former Polish Republic and thin out rapidly the further east you go... That same year he ordered that no Jews were to remain in the GG except absolutely essential workers, so they weren't there either.

Yes, no plan survives contact with the enemy. The eastern front collapsed and Germany lost the war. Plans in 1942 or orders in 1943 are not going to necessarily reflect the state of the East in 1944. The point is that it is demonstrable that Jews were separated piecemeal across tens of thousands of camps and used as a mobile labor force in a network of camps which existed along the lines that are alleged to have been homicidal Holocaust trains.

On the other hand, you claim to know the precise GPS coordinates of where every single one of 1.5 million+ Jews were murdered and are buried, but 0% of those remains have ever been identified in scientific excavation. In order to reverse the burden of proof for your extraordinary claim: that they were murdered in homicidal gas chambers disguised as shower rooms, buried, then unburied and burned on makeshift open-air pyres, the gambit is to demand that Revisionists find the Jews which would have remained in Communist-occupied territory.

Himmler ordered the liquidation of the eastern ghettoes in summer 1943 while Sobibor and Treblinka were still in operation. You don't liquidate deportation destinations while you're deporting people there.

Wilhelm Kube complains about a single transport of 1,000 Warsaw Jews sent to work at a Luftwaffe plant, because he says he just cleared his district of Jews, so why are they sending him new ones? He would not say this if he knew the plan was to dump millions of Polish and western Jews on his doorstep. Obviously this was not the case.

The point is that it is demonstrable that Jews were separated piecemeal across tens of thousands of camps and used as a mobile labor

Obviously the 60% of Polish Jews that were non-laboring were not sent to random work camps all over the eastern front.

On the other hand, you claim to know the precise GPS coordinates of where every single one of 1.5 million+ Jews were murdered and are buried, but 0% of those remains have ever been identified in scientific excavation.

Andrzej Kola verified the presence of huge quantities of human ash in the ground at Belzec, Mattogno's cope arguments to the contrary aside.

Wilhelm Kube complains about a single transport of 1,000 Warsaw Jews sent to work at a Luftwaffe plant

His complaint proves that Warsaw Jews who were deported during the period of operation of the Treblinka “death camp” ended up to the east of it, across the Bug River. By all accounts the first transport of Warsaw Jews to Treblinka was 23 July 1942. Kube's telegram is one week later, 31 July 1942, so a complaint about a "single transport" is no indication there were not further transports. Kube's complaint was about the partisan problem and spread of disease, but he actually protested against “further independent import of Jews” (weiterer selbständiger Judeneinfuhr), suggesting further transports with coordination would be acceptable.

Kube's protests wouldn't have changed the plan in any case, as the response to Kube read "the practical realization of the solution of the Jewish problem is exclusively a matter for the police".

Kube's interaction shows the arrival of Warsaw deportees East of the Bug after the departure of the earliest transports. What is lacking in any of these interactions is a mutual understanding of a general, secret extermination plan, and Kube's threats given further "independent import of Jews" rings hollow if the policy was to kill them all in the first place.

Andrzej Kola verified the presence of huge quantities of human ash in the ground at Belzec, Mattogno's cope arguments to the contrary aside.

He verified no such thing, as was shown by Mattogno. Core samples and a bunch of fallacious estimates are not a substitute for an actual excavation. There's no legitimate excuse for a lack of excavations of the alleged mass graves.

Kube says that he wants to completely eliminate Jewry in White Russia once the Wehrmacht no longer has a need for skilled Jewish workers. He also says that the danger the Jew poses outweighs even his worth as a skilled laborer. This is completely incompatible with the supposition that Kube was in fact anticipating hundreds more transports of economically worthless Jews.

The 60% of non-laboring Polish Jews were not sent to work camps in the east, nor were they sent to the ghettoes which ceased to exist in 1943.

He verified no such thing, as was shown by Mattogno.

Mattogno didn't show that. If you sink a drill into the ground at regular intervals within a circumscribed plot of ground and come up with ashes every time, it's because the pit underneath is full of ashes. Insisting otherwise is like saying if you stick your hand into a sack of marbles five times and come out with a handful of red marbles every time you can't conclude the bag is full of red marbles, you have to spill the bag and count every single marble. There's nothing wrong with Kola's results or his method, and they are the same methods used to investigate Soviet mass graves at Katyn and Kommunarka. This idea that "you have to dig up the mass grave and count every skull or else there's no mass grave there" is totally wrongheaded as demonstrated by the hundreds of mass graves of Stalin's terror and the Cambodian genocide and other mass killings that are universally recognized as mass graves despite having never been excavated.

He also says that the danger the Jew poses outweighs even his worth as a skilled laborer.

His opinion has no bearing on the actual policy, his complaints suggests he was not aware of any top-secret plan to kill all the Jews. Nor does the response to his complaint hint at any top-secret plan to exterminate all the Jews. At no point in any of this correspondence does either party hint at the extermination policy you are alleging, the correspondence suggests Kube was not aware of such a policy.

On the other hand, Kube's complaint confirms the deportation of Warsaw Jews across the Bug during the precise time they were all allegedly exterminated at Treblinka.

There's nothing wrong with Kola's results or his method, and they are the same methods used to investigate Soviet mass graves at Katyn and Kommunarka.

There are enormous problems with Kola's methods. There was no attempt at all to quantify the amount of human remains. Mass graves are known to have burial density of as low as 1-2 bodies per square meter, but the claimed burial density of the Holocaust mass graves are unrealistically higher than that. Without even any attempt to quantify the amount of remains with any excavations, the problem with the story stands unanswered. Kola also found many corpses that were not cremated, which stands directly contrary to the official story that all the bodies were cremated to hide the evidence. That would also make it more worthwhile to conduct excavations and study the remains to have a better understanding of what transpired.

The Revisionist hypothesis that Sobibor was a transit camp would imply a level of mortality during resettlement, given the large number of people who passed through the camp. The lack of any attempt whatsoever to identify the quantity of remains at Sobibor, the investigation (by design) fails to differentiate Kola's results with either hypothesis.

Mattogno discusses Kola's results at length in his work on Sobibor.

His opinion has no bearing on the actual policy, his complaints suggests he was not aware of any top-secret plan to kill all the Jews.

If he was protesting a plan to deport several million Jews into his domain he would complain about that, not one transport of skilled workers.

at no point in any of this correspondence does either party hint at the extermination policy you are alleging

The entire first half of the letter is Kube talking about the tens of thousands of Jews he has killed over the past few weeks to make Belarus Jew free.

There was no attempt at all to quantify the amount of human remains. Mass graves are known to have burial density of as low as 1-2 bodies per square meter, but the claimed burial density of the Holocaust mass graves are unrealistically higher than that.

One of the graves at Belzec, Grave 5, had the dimensions of 32 x 10 x 4.5 meters. The crematory layer was 1.00 meter thick (a quantification). Even assuming that the extent of the crematory layer is overestimated by half, that would still be the remains of some 3,000 people in this one grave out of dozens. There is no reason for a transit camp to have several tens of thousands of cubic meters' worth of burial pits.

We can compare the result to the testimony of Rudolf Reder, the principal witness to the alleged extermination at Belzec:

“A grave was 100 m long and 25 m wide. A single grave contained about 100,000 persons. In November 1942 there were 30 graves, i.e. 3 million corpses"

So nothing was found that at all resembled the account of the most important witnesses. The incongruence of what was found with the testimony is a major problem and would warrant more through study in a sane world. Your estimate of 3,000 people in Pit 5 is based on nothing and pulled from thin air. Even if it were true, that would represent 0.5% of the alleged victims buried at Belzec.

Even if 3,000 people were buried in that pit, and all pits also had 3,000 victims (even though they are much smaller), that would "only" amount to 99,000 people, 500,000 short of what is claimed by mainstream historiography. The sheer scale of the orthodox narrative is completely untenable from every dimension: burial space, cremation capacity, soil displacement, fuel requirements for cremation capacity.

The assertion is that those 600,000 victims were cremated on open-air pyres at Belzec, but as Mattogno notes:

The cremation of a corpse of 46 kg (average assumed weight, including allowance for presumed children) requires about 160 kg of firewood. To burn 600,000 corpses, one would therefore have needed (600,000×160=) 96 million kg of wood, or 96,000 tons; this corresponds to the harvesting of 192 hectares of a 50-year-old fir forest, about thirty times (!) the surface of the Bełżec camp. Photographs taken of Bełżec from the air, published by John C. Ball, show that in 1944 the forests around the Bełżec camp were the same as in 1940. So where would this immense quantity of wood have come from? Its transportation would have required some 19,000 trucks or over 3,800 freight cars, the equivalent of 95 trains of 40 cars each! However, none of the numerous local witnesses interrogated by the investigative judge of Zamość between the end of 1945 and the beginning of 1946 ever saw such an enormous flow of trucks and/or trains full of firewood.

As we have seen in section 4.1., according to the findings of the Polish courts the cremation of 600,000 corpses went on without interruption for three months, from December 1942 through March 1943. This corresponds to an average of 6,650 corpses per day! For each and every day about 1,064 tons of wood – over 42 freight cars or over 200 trucks – would have been needed.

In consideration of the orthodox Holocaust narrative claim of 6,650 corpses being cremated on outdoor pyres every single day, with the corpses exhumed from graves "100 m long and 25 m wide" according to the most important witnesses, Kola's results are not at all consistent with this narrative and do not bring it closer to the realm of reality.

We can compare the result to the testimony of Rudolf Reder, the principal witness to the alleged extermination at Belzec

The function of archaeology is to corroborate or correct eyewitness and documentary evidence. This is like saying that when they found the Titanic and confirmed the ship split in two before sinking this should have been a blow against the "official story" which up until then had the ship sinking intact.

Your estimate of 3,000 people in Pit 5 is based on nothing and pulled from thin air.

Pit is 32 long, 10 wide, and 4.5 meters deep. Kola measured a crematory layer 1 meter deep. Chop the 1.0 meter in half and that's a 0.5 meter thick crematory layer. If a human body leaves 0.0421667 cubic meters of ash (Mattogno's number), then it's roughly 0.5 x 10 x 32 / 0.0421667 = 3,794 people. Assuming Kola overestimated the size of the crematory layer by half. And there were more crematory layers in grave 5 alone, this was just the thickest one.

Even if there were "only" tens of thousands of cremated people in the ground at Belzec that is enough to refute the transit camp idea.

500,000 short of what is claimed by mainstream historiography.

Höfle telegram has 430,000 Jews shipped to Belzec by the end of 1942, after which Belzec pretty much ceased operations, so 600,000 is much too high.

However, none of the numerous local witnesses interrogated by the investigative judge of Zamość between the end of 1945 and the beginning of 1946 ever saw such an enormous flow of trucks and/or trains full of firewood

Neither is there a single witness to trains leaving Belzec full of deportees bound eastwards (though there are plenty of witnesses to the opposite; trains coming in and leaving empty), but for Mattogno's thesis to stand several such trains must have left daily in full view of all the locals.

Höfle telegram has 430,000 Jews shipped to Belzec by the end of 1942, after which Belzec pretty much ceased operations, so 600,000 is much too high.

You say "much too high" and then act like 430,000 solves the problem, which it does not. Another notable aspect of Kola's investigation is that while he found some corpses that had not been cremated (it would be quite helpful for everyone if they were actually excavated and studied) there were very few relative to the claimed victim count, so there's no room for you to claim, contrary to the official narrative, that masses were left uncreated. With respect to Treblinka, I recall that you argued some significant proportion of victims must have been left uncremated to try to get around the problem of mass cremation. You can't resort to that for Belzec, you have to actually account for the logistical feasibility of the operation you are claiming took place: an operation that is completely void of documentary evidence or witness account, with nobody seeming to recall where the fuel was procured in order to cremate 430,000-600,000 people in a matter of a few months.

The Belzec camp was well-known among the population and much of the camp was in full view of spots from the surrounding area. Are you familiar with any contemporary reports of the raging infernos that would have been burning hundreds of cords of wood on a daily basis to cremate thousands of people per day, every day?

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