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Culture War Roundup for the week of May 22, 2023

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I made a conditional statement, that if Arad said what you said he said, you were right, but he didn't say what you said he said. No weaseling, no walking back. There's no contradiction or hypocrisy in saying that it would be much more difficult to cremate 700,000 or 800,000 corpses than it would be to cremate 430,000 in a similar timeframe.

why is four months any more plausible? It isn't.

Because 430,000 is less than 800,000 by almost half. If there are uncremated corpses at Belzec (and there are obviously at least a few or else Kola wouldn't have found them) then it's a very small fraction of the total.

There were ashes everywhere in Dresden, we have no scientific knowledge whatsoever of what those ashes are

What does "scientific knowledge of what those ashes are" mean? It's possible the authorities at Dresden dumped a random unrelated heap of ashes in a neat little pile right next to a burning cremation pyre for no reason but that strikes me as pretty implausible. Seems more likely they are the results of previous cremations in the same spot. Which also dovetails with the statements of the people who carried out the cremations, who said the bodies were reduced to ash. Unless they were also lying. The fact that it wasn't carried out in a lab doesn't matter.

So if it was possible to reduce corpses to the state of those piles of 'ash' in those photos (or whatever you want to call it maybe it wouldn't pass muster as 'ash' in a commercial crematorium), then it was possible to do the same on a larger scale at Belzec, and hence the Belzec cremations were also possible.

The cite from the UK foot-and-mouth report by way of Jansson's blog is not technical analysis either. No indication anyone carried out any experiments, nor does it even claim gasoline (well, napalm) wouldn't serve, merely that it wouldn't "improve on" burning with wood and coal, and of course all this refers to the fresh corpses of livestock with their full water content and not desiccated corpses in the earth for a year.

I don't know what you're referring to with regard to the Sobibor skeletons. The only recent paper I'm familiar with is this one which does not conclude that these people were shot by the NKVD.

Based on the character of the discovery, the case was taken over by the Institute of National Remembrance in Lublin at the end of 2013. Initially, two possible hypotheses were articulated as to whom those remains may belong. One connected the burials with the executions of the last prisoners from Treblinka, who came to Sobibór to liquidate the camp in 1943 (hypothesis rejected). The second hypothesis explained the rush of the execution and burying the bodies by connecting it to the activities of The People’s Commissariat for Internal Affairs (abbreviated NKVD), which was the interior ministry of the Soviet Union. There was a report on NKVD activity after the war in the area of the former camp. Residents of the villages in the area surrounding the extermination camp witnessed shots. The archaeological analyses of the burial sites suggested that the graves were rather connected to the crimes committed by NKVD between 1945 and 1956... These observations suggest that the execution of people, whose remains were discovered in grave 16, but also in graves 12–14, occurred after the end of the criminal activity of the German Nazi extermination camp.

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