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What does the Motte think about UFOs/UAPs? I ask because there was a relatively big instance of "disclosure" today within the UFO community. A former senior US intelligence figure (who allegedly had enough high level classifications to report directly to the president) has apparently stated to Congress and journalists that the US has recovered "non-human technology."
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I figure that most people in this community are good rationalists and dismiss UFOs/UAPs/"non-human intelligences" out of hand. Does this kind of evidence change your mind at all? What would?
For those who, like me, think this (in conjunction with the massive amount of other evidence for UFOs/UAPs/etc.) is fairly good evidence that this phenomenon is real, what might be the social and political implications of this? It's kind of hard for me to imagine anything changing our current political stalemate and trajectory, and I can definitely imagine a situation where the US completely admits to the existence of "non-human intelligences" only for the story to be overtaken the next day when Trump says something allegedly racist, or whatever. And unless reverse-engineered non-human technology starts seeping into consumer electronics or something, it's hard to see it affecting people that much on a day-to-day basis. On the other hand, it's hard to imagine news that could be more important.
Your first link was a 500 error, and your second link was to a youtube channel of a dude talking to another dude. People "saying things to congress" is not evidence. People can tell lies.
If there's chunks of non-human tech in government hands, evidence of that would be an announcement by the government, and public display of the tech. Actual evidence of alien tech will not need to be debated; it will be overwhelmingly persuasive and inescapably prominent by its very nature. Absent such an unquestionable reveal, there is no reason to entertain lesser "reveals", because they have never, ever panned out. If alien tech were here, the world would look different than it does in very noticeable ways, and all arguments to the contrary are unfalsifiable.
The site is being pounded right now. Link works for me, you might need to try it again.
I found it by general search. The article was what I expected: assertions, no actual evidence. People say, no actual evidence. Multiple people confirm, no actual evidence. Apparently some documents have been cleared for release by the DoD: okay, what's the evidence in the documents that brings this all home?
It's implications all the way down. I'm not buying it.
Indeed, assertions by a former high level member of the US intelligence services. You must admit that's not no evidence, especially when considered in light of things like the videos that have been released by the military.
It is too close to "no evidence" for the difference to matter.
Evidence that would change my mind would be actual, baseline impacts on my life. This stuff never, ever changes the world we actually live in to any perceptible degree. If that changes, if novel alloys or materials enter production, or novel power sources, radical advances in computing or weapons or transportation or engineering actually arrive, I'll change my mind. Until that happens, the prior that it's bogus is overwhelming.
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