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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 12, 2022

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No, I think you were incorrect when you wrote "it's just that almost all trans are diametrically opposed to more core values that this forum holds." I don't think it's the case that almost all trans are diametrically opposed to this forum's core values. I think it's the case that almost all trans activists are diametrically opposed to those, and also that trans activists try to give the (unsupported) impression that trans people in general have some meaningful level of agreement with trans activists.

Ah. That might be the case, but I think there's a lot of overlap between trans and trans-activist.

I have or have had significant personal experiences with a number of transpeople. By and large, the activist trait is the most important one when it has come to personally figuring out if someone's values will align with mine or not (and, separately but related, this forum's core values). All my personal experiences with trans activists have seen them be left-wing and loudly against my values. Also, loudly against the values of this forum, as it's not generally believed outside this space that hateful people should be given a platform and that it's worthwhile to rigorously explore other's ideas.

Is this actually representative of the trans community? Couldn't say. But I can definitely say that every trans activist I've seen has been a censorious progressive, and every non-activist transperson I've dealt with is just... a normal person who happens to be trans and doesn't want to talk about it and is keenly more right-sympathetic, if not an outright right-winger themselves. Often, this left/right, activist/non-activist split also lines up with a doesn't pass/passes one, which I suspect has a lot to do with certain attitudes.

If the values of this forum are about free speech and rational constructive discussion, then why is it dominated by conservatives and reactionaries who don't let left wing comments get high rating, does this mean only right wingers value rational political debate or does it mean that left wingers do not like the way they are treated when they comment on here?

Downvotes don't take away your ability to use the forum. Don't get bogged down in pretend internet points, I have plenty of comments that have been voted negative and I'm very right-wing. It doesn't matter.

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