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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 10, 2023

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You are taking insufficient account of interpersonal variance. I am unconvinced that the differences between the life-experiences of American-Men-As-A-Class ("AMAAC") and American-Women-As-A-Class ("AWAAC") are significant compared to the differences between the rich and poor, beautiful and ugly, normal and disabled/crippled, smart and dumb, low-time-preference and high-time-preference, etc.

Lewontin's Fallacy is as much a fallacy here as it is in genetics. That within-group variance is greater than between-group variance does not mean between-group variance is not large and significant.

Lewontin's fallacy is the accurate claim that greater within-group variability doesn't negate the usefulness or predictiveness of the groups, which is true.

However, it's often overused - greater within-group variability is a good argument against IQ arguments for white nationalism, for instance, and here similarly - say that (made up) 60% of men have it worse than the median woman. This is consistent with OP's claims (differences may be accentuated at the tails), but doesn't at all match with OP's rhetoric.

I'm not saying that the differences between AMAAC and AWAAC are not significant. I'm saying that if you're asking me about my life-chances from behind a veil of ignorance, the differences imposed on me by being AMAAC or AWAAC would be swamped by (and in many ways significantly dependent on) other traits about me - inherited wealth, inherent intelligence, inherent beauty, sketchy family, etc.

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