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Is anyone of the opinion that even honest, non-coercive casual sex is immoral, for secular reasons? I think I share a common preference among men that I’d rarely pass up on a hookup with an attractive woman but would probably not date a woman long-term who has slept around too much (“too much” is probably decided on a case-by-case basis and there are other factors involved). I can see how that’s hypocritical in one sense. And according to my own value system, I’m denigrating the value of women I have no long-term intentions with but other men with my shared preferences might. But a certain libertarian perspective also says “whatever is honest, legal, and uncoerced is ethical” and men (including me, probably) will just have to learn to settle later in life for women with a higher body count than they deem acceptable.
I'm not a secular person, but yes. I value meaningful forms of joy, the more meaningful the better. Strong drugs are generally immoral because the opportunity cost (the chance you could be working or calling a friend or something) far outweighs the benefits (meaningless physical pleasure). Similarly a casual relationship is less meaningful than a committed one and so is immoral to the extent that it keeps you from pursuing a long-term partner. I also think making sex an intimate thing is meaningful, so casual sex somewhat decreases the intimacy of any eventual long-term relationship, meaning that casual sex is immoral even when it is definitely not replacing/delaying a potential long-term relationship.
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