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The Bailey Podcast E034: An Unhinged Conversation on Policing

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In this episode, an authoritarian and some anarchist(s) have an unhinged conversation about policing.

Participants: Yassine, Kulak, & Hoffmeister25 [Note: the latter's voice has been modified to protect him from the progressive nanny state's enforcement agents.]

Links:

About the Daniel Penny Situation (Hoffmeister25)

Posse comitatus (Wikipedia)

Lifetime Likelihood of Going to State or Federal Prison (BJS 1997)

The Iron Rule (Anarchonomicon)

Eleven Magic Words (Yassine Meskhout)

Blackstone's ratio (Wikipedia)

Halfway To Prison Abolition (Yassine Meskhout)

Defunding My Mistake (Yassine Meskhout)


Recorded 2023-09-16 | Uploaded 2023-09-25

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One thing Kulak implied that is simply untrue is that criminals in the black community are tolerated/supported because they victimize whites. While black on white crime is certainly higher than the reverse, it isn't high compared to black on black crime. Most crime is intraracial, and the burden of black violence falls predominantly on blacks themselves. I broadly agree with him on crime but on this he's completely wrong as can easily seen from homicide statistics: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

This doesn't factor in property crimes though, right? Is looting a store considered a black-on-white crime or no?

Depending on how the property crimes play out, I could certainly see there being a sort of viking-esque respect for the criminals who bring in the goods. I mean a competent drug dealer or large Gucci raid make surely make up a sizeable portion of the wealth coming into certain areas. If it's a large enough portion, many may be willing to tolerate the violence inflicted by those conquering heroes. I think of traditional Cavalier culture, where the men on top of the system were expected to inflict violence, and those below expected to tolerate it, because of the way the men on top were seen as providing for everyone lower on the totem pole.

It also makes me think of some Twitter posts I saw recently (but can't find now) where a user was talking about how they managed to buy a house with money they saved by "boosting" (theft) and other users sharing similar stories. Crime does pay.

I think something like this does actually exist (read about Young Thug's little gangbanger warlord lifestyle if you want an extreme example) but the key thing is money, not that they victimize whites. You see the same thing with athletes, non-gang-affiliated musicians etc. Money confers status, but I don't think that has anything to do with Kulak's point due to money seeming to confer similar status to violent criminals and basketball players. I think property crime would be directed outward more because that's where the money is than because of racial solidarity/animosity.