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An odd argument re someone who moved to California at age 30, was a labor leader in the state, was a regent of the University of California, worked for Kamala Harris, and moved out of state 2 years ago only to pursue a job opportunity
She doesn't live in California. I have associations with states other than the state I presently reside in, including business interests and property ownership, but I would be blatantly and obviously lying if I claimed that I am a legitimate representative of those states.
Let's try it another way - do you think she would be a legitimate representative for Maryland? If so, what parameters are the relevant limiting factor for which state one can represent? In any sense that I would think of as legitimate, you would need to pre-select the state and/or locale that represent, not simply carpetbag to any state that you have a tenuous connection to when it's convenient. I'm sure I have no legal argument on the matter, as carpetbagging is a time-honored and perfectly legal tradition in many cases, but it seems pretty clear to me that you can't actually be simultaneously just as legitimate a representative of Maryland as California.
The relevant factors for which state one can represent are best determined by the voters in that state. It's a persuasive rather than a dispositive factor. It's a perfectly legit criticism to lob, but voters are perfectly free to ignore it if they feel an outsider represents their interests better than an insider for various reasons.
It's a tradition that dates prior to the revolution, wealthy Englishmen were known to buy "rotten boroughs" where there were few enough votes and they were obedient enough that enough money could buy a seat in the Commons.
I'm on the record here crucifying Dr Oz for running for the PA Senate seat, on the other hand I support(Ed) McCormick's run for the same seat. Neither currently lived in PA, McCormick grew up in PA, and his family was prominent in PA before. Oz' ties were based on his in laws and part of his education, at best. That's a judgment I made personally, at the booth.
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So, if Jerry Brown had moved to Maryland two years ago to head Emily's List, he would be an illegitimate pick as well? Clearly, "moved to Maryland for a job two years ago" is not per se proof that you can't be a legitimate representative of California.
Correct, my position is that moving to a different state, establishing your residence there, declaring that you reside there, and registering to vote there means that you are no longer a legitimate representative of your former state. I would be open to the position that someone should instead only be eligible for their previous state since two years is obviously not long enough to become legitimate in the new residence. I reject the idea that someone can be Schrödinger's representative, equally legitimate in all places that they could register in once appointed.
Well, that seems a bit extreme, given my Jerry Brown example.
That is a strawman that you have created. No one has argued otherwise.
I am indeed the kind of extremist that reads Article I, Section 3 as applicable, even if it were the venerable Jerry Brown that had moved:
I guess you can get around that by saying that she's not being elected. That would suggest that it would be perfectly legal to select a teenager from Australia though, which doesn't strike me as likely.
Regarding Schrödinger's representative, I suppose the correct analogy isn't that they could register in any place, but merely that they are equally resident in both places as necessary until declaration. That does seem to be exactly what you're claiming, no? That Butler would be legitimate in Maryland or California and that Brown would likewise be equally legitimate in either place if he moved. As mentioned, I'm open to the suggestion that Brown could only ever be a legitimate representative of California and that two years residence in Maryland wouldn't change that one jot, but it doesn't really match up with a plain reading of the text.
Dude, that is a completely different issue than the one you raised. If Jerry Brown moved to Delaware, he might be constitutionally ineligible to serve as Senator from California, regardless of whether he is capable of representing the interests of Californians. Your claim was re the latter.
I believe those claims are entirely consistent - someone is ineligible precisely because it's fairly obvious that they're not representative of a state that isn't actually their state of residence. This was codified precisely because someone's residence does actually inform us about who they represent.
This is a claim that residence is a relevant consideration. No one doubts that. The problem, as illustrated by the Jerry Brown example, is with your claim that current residence is per se disqualifying.
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