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Israel-Gaza Megathread #1
This is a megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.
We seem to have pretty different perspectives here. If Israel used enough nukes to decapitate their current enemies' armies, I'd expect other Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia and Turkey to join the fight. The only way Israel wins, even temporarily, is via escalation, and escalation breeds escalation.
Before that happened though I'd expect the US, China, and Russia to step in and probably turn the whole battle into yet another proxy war, meaning no nukes allowed.
I think kicking Palestinians out of Gaza would maybe prompt some kind of response from the US, but definitely not enough to cut ties. The alliance between the US and Israel is bizzarely strong. TBH I don't even unprovoked nukes from Israel would be guaranteed to entirely cut ties between the two countries.
The Saudis can't even squash a starving insurgency in Yemen*, you have far too much faith in their competence if they think they can take on Israel. And yes, I think that if they get involved, the F-35s will pay them a visit.
TBH I don't even unprovoked nukes from Israel would be guaranteed to entirely cut ties between the two countries.
Depends on how strict you are about "entirely", but I think any actual support would cease.
*And they're not nearly as shy of war crimes as the Israelis are. Hence the starvation.
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We seem to have pretty different perspectives here. If Israel used enough nukes to decapitate their current enemies' armies, I'd expect other Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia and Turkey to join the fight. The only way Israel wins, even temporarily, is via escalation, and escalation breeds escalation.
Before that happened though I'd expect the US, China, and Russia to step in and probably turn the whole battle into yet another proxy war, meaning no nukes allowed.
I think kicking Palestinians out of Gaza would maybe prompt some kind of response from the US, but definitely not enough to cut ties. The alliance between the US and Israel is bizzarely strong. TBH I don't even unprovoked nukes from Israel would be guaranteed to entirely cut ties between the two countries.
The Saudis can't even squash a starving insurgency in Yemen*, you have far too much faith in their competence if they think they can take on Israel. And yes, I think that if they get involved, the F-35s will pay them a visit.
Depends on how strict you are about "entirely", but I think any actual support would cease.
*And they're not nearly as shy of war crimes as the Israelis are. Hence the starvation.
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