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Israel-Gaza Megathread #2
This is a refreshed megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.
Well there are lots of lies to choose from -- Biden clearly lied about seeing the photos -- surely if the photos existed he would have gone to lengths to procure them, since being caught lying is pretty embarrassing for the President.
But the IDF guy (based on current evidence) was also lying about seeing beheaded women and children -- since so far there is no evidence that this happened at all.
And whichever people spread the '40 beheaded babies' initially were also lying, pretty clearly -- so which of these lies are you saying I shouldn't be criticizing?
since being caught lying is pretty embarrassing for the President.
Lol.
which of these lies are you saying I shouldn't be criticizing?
The ones that were not said by the people you accuse of them.
E.g. upthread @coffee_enjoyer said "an IDF spokesman does not say "40 decapitated babies" by accident." The clear implication of this is that an IDF spokesman said "40 decapitated babies". But this is not true.
It's this sort of lazy exaggeration that I am objecting to.
Well object away -- I don't think that particular item started spreading by itself, but if we want to stick to non-speculative objections I object to the fact that IDF-dude said that he was just back from seeing beheaded women, toddlers and babies (syntax unclear, but at least one of each, I would interpret his words as 2+ in some of the categories) -- which at this point is a total lie. Also Bibi's spokeswoman who repeated much the same thing, which he should probably be take responsibility for (unless she's gone rogue or something). And Biden ofc -- I don't think "I'm a moron who just repeats whatever people tell me with added embellishment" is a good excuse here.
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Well there are lots of lies to choose from -- Biden clearly lied about seeing the photos -- surely if the photos existed he would have gone to lengths to procure them, since being caught lying is pretty embarrassing for the President.
But the IDF guy (based on current evidence) was also lying about seeing beheaded women and children -- since so far there is no evidence that this happened at all.
And whichever people spread the '40 beheaded babies' initially were also lying, pretty clearly -- so which of these lies are you saying I shouldn't be criticizing?
Lol.
The ones that were not said by the people you accuse of them.
E.g. upthread @coffee_enjoyer said "an IDF spokesman does not say "40 decapitated babies" by accident." The clear implication of this is that an IDF spokesman said "40 decapitated babies". But this is not true.
It's this sort of lazy exaggeration that I am objecting to.
Well object away -- I don't think that particular item started spreading by itself, but if we want to stick to non-speculative objections I object to the fact that IDF-dude said that he was just back from seeing beheaded women, toddlers and babies (syntax unclear, but at least one of each, I would interpret his words as 2+ in some of the categories) -- which at this point is a total lie. Also Bibi's spokeswoman who repeated much the same thing, which he should probably be take responsibility for (unless she's gone rogue or something). And Biden ofc -- I don't think "I'm a moron who just repeats whatever people tell me with added embellishment" is a good excuse here.
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