naraburns nihil supernum
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Israel-Gaza Megathread #3
This is a refreshed megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.
I reckon the majority of Muslims will show up for Biden out of self interest. However Michigan in particular has a big levantine Arab community who care alot about this conflict. They are also mostly 2/3rd generation so wouldn't be affected by Trumps muslim ban.
With the razor sharp margins Biden got in several swing states, this could make him really vulnerable. He won Georgia with 12 000 votes, and the state has more than 70 000 Muslims.
I also wonder how this focus on Israel will play with other minority groups, like blacks and Hispanics. I think the feeling that your president and government is beholden to a foreign government you don't really care about can be alienating to alot of these voters. Particularly when Biden is not delivering on bread and butter issues.
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rudig 6mo ago
They are also mostly 2/3rd generation so wouldn't be affected by Trumps muslim ban.
As I've said before, the mistake was made in 1965, not in 2017. Either way, the best time to not open immigration to Arab Muslims was decades ago, but the second-best time is now. Even if I those second and third generation Muslims aren't personally impacted, I would wager that Trump's policy would piss them off enough that they're vote for the opposite party in an election. If Biden's embrace of Israel alienates them to the extent that they don't vote at all, that would have to be thought of as an unmitigated win for the Trump campaign.
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I reckon the majority of Muslims will show up for Biden out of self interest. However Michigan in particular has a big levantine Arab community who care alot about this conflict. They are also mostly 2/3rd generation so wouldn't be affected by Trumps muslim ban.
With the razor sharp margins Biden got in several swing states, this could make him really vulnerable. He won Georgia with 12 000 votes, and the state has more than 70 000 Muslims.
I also wonder how this focus on Israel will play with other minority groups, like blacks and Hispanics. I think the feeling that your president and government is beholden to a foreign government you don't really care about can be alienating to alot of these voters. Particularly when Biden is not delivering on bread and butter issues.
As I've said before, the mistake was made in 1965, not in 2017. Either way, the best time to not open immigration to Arab Muslims was decades ago, but the second-best time is now. Even if I those second and third generation Muslims aren't personally impacted, I would wager that Trump's policy would piss them off enough that they're vote for the opposite party in an election. If Biden's embrace of Israel alienates them to the extent that they don't vote at all, that would have to be thought of as an unmitigated win for the Trump campaign.
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