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Wellness Wednesday for December 13, 2023

The Wednesday Wellness threads are meant to encourage users to ask for and provide advice and motivation to improve their lives. It isn't intended as a 'containment thread' and any content which could go here could instead be posted in its own thread. You could post:

  • Requests for advice and / or encouragement. On basically any topic and for any scale of problem.

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  • Advice. This can be in response to a request for advice or just something that you think could be generally useful for many people here.

  • Encouragement. Probably best directed at specific users, but if you feel like just encouraging people in general I don't think anyone is going to object. I don't think I really need to say this, but just to be clear; encouragement should have a generally positive tone and not shame people (if people feel that shame might be an effective tool for motivating people, please discuss this so we can form a group consensus on how to use it rather than just trying it).

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They say man plans and god laughs.

I think I’ve been pretty in-tune with the techno-capitalist zeitgeist.

Any philosophical framework needs to address death—as much a constant of life as the sun setting each day.

How does the rat-diaspora do this? Rationally of course! With statistics. But the lower parts of our brains don’t understand statistics, so the real message is this: if you’re 64 you’ll get another 16 years according to the actuarial tables. If you’re completely healthy, run daily, have a highlighted and annotated copy of your medical records—if you’re literally doing everything right and within your power to take care of yourself—you can shade that up a couple years.

But that’s not true—you can do everything right and be perfectly healthy and suddenly die anyway, as the statistics tell us.

Have you ever experienced real “denial”? When the facts tell you “1+1=2 and also fuck you” and you just shake your head and think “no, that can’t be right, maybe 1+1=3 and my life is still good.” The power of rational thinking vs the surge of more primal, ancient ways.

So how do I cope with this? Our thinkers seem to prefer to avoid it, or throw Hail Marys on radical life extension tech. The modern way would be therapy. The traditional way, which got my ancestors through innumerable tragedies, is the church.

But I need something—I don’t think it’s healthy to live in a cold, unfeeling world ruled by randomness. (After all, that’s not how the West was won, was it?)

What do you believe about consciousness?

  • If it's an illusion, death is just the illusion ending. I see little reason to believe it is an illusion though.
  • If it's an emergent property, something which atoms arranged in certain ways create, then "you" are unaffected if, for example, you are killed and a perfect copy created. In this case "you" die to the extent no other sufficiently similar human exists or will ever exist, anywhere in reality. This also implies "you" die temporarily if you get a head injury, get high, or even fall asleep. I see little reason to believe this, but if this is what you believe, I see little reason to not believe in alternate dimensions or anything similar. Maybe the Big Bounce is a thing, and after countless repetitions the atoms will align just right for "you" to appear again.
  • If souls exist, your soul is headed somewhere, and there's clearly a lot we don't understand about reality.

I think we are generally pretty overconfident about this stuff. It's much more certain that 1+1=2 than that death is the end. If death is the end, though, is coping even the right thing to do? It's horrible to imagine a conscious being just being snuffed out like that.